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post #601 of 622

Has anyone noticed that the prices are slowly creeping up? 

 

I mean they used to have $81 and $99 denim and $20 referral bonus. Now they reduced the bonus to $5, increased the international shipping to $23 and their latest fabric have all been $99 or even higher. Some of these fabrics were cheaper in the past compared to the recent campaigns. 

post #602 of 622
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Originally Posted by wilcoholic View Post

Has anyone noticed that the prices are slowly creeping up? 

I mean they used to have $81 and $99 denim and $20 referral bonus. Now they reduced the bonus to $5, increased the international shipping to $23 and their latest fabric have all been $99 or even higher. Some of these fabrics were cheaper in the past compared to the recent campaigns. 

Yes, every business that starts out their operation on the model of affordability and great value always seems to follow that trend! Anyone here ever frequent Jackthre4ds when they FIRST opened? They used to have amazing deals, now everything is just meh, they totally jacked up the prices once they found enough of a customer base. When you don't have a strong brand name, you have to win on the basis of price -- but once your price improves your brand, you can charge more and more. Even if they add $81 fabrics again, with the referral bonus cut, every jean is at least $15 more expensive!
post #603 of 622
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Originally Posted by xizenta View Post


Yes, every business that starts out their operation on the model of affordability and great value always seems to follow that trend! Anyone here ever frequent Jackthre4ds when they FIRST opened? They used to have amazing deals, now everything is just meh, they totally jacked up the prices once they found enough of a customer base. When you don't have a strong brand name, you have to win on the basis of price -- but once your price improves your brand, you can charge more and more. Even if they add $81 fabrics again, with the referral bonus cut, every jean is at least $15 more expensive!

Happy to comment on the price points a bit. 

 

We try to be very responsive to what our wearers ask for. Recently we’ve been getting requests for more unusual fabrics - unique warp/weft blends, heavy weights, etc. These rare fabrics are usually also more expensive than traditional indigo/white selvedge denims, and that drives the final prices higher.

 

A great example is the Grey Silk fabric we offered. It’s a very rare and expensive selvedge from Italy. It was our lowest margin product despite being the highest price we’ve offered at $127. We saw 3x1 denim out of New York offered this fabric for $650 per pair, so we still think the value is pretty solid.

 

Stephen and I see a lot of brands “cutting out the middle man” but just keeping the margin for the company. Our goal is to run a much more efficient business and return the savings to you. It’s not just about cutting out the middle man for us. It’s also about lining up supply and demand each time. That’s why we can actually sustain true wholesale prices long term.

 

Hope this helps explain our model a bit. Thanks.

post #604 of 622
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Originally Posted by Mox C View Post

Anyone interested in a #2 Organic Indigo Slvg. Chambray, labeled S but measures as XS? Only washed, not worn. I love the shirt, but it's too small for me.

Hey, do you still have this shirt? I'd consider buying it.
post #605 of 622
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Originally Posted by joshgustin View Post

Happy to comment on the price points a bit. 

We try to be very responsive to what our wearers ask for. Recently we’ve been getting requests for more unusual fabrics - unique warp/weft blends, heavy weights, etc. These rare fabrics are usually also more expensive than traditional indigo/white selvedge denims, and that drives the final prices higher.

A great example is the Grey Silk fabric we offered. It’s a very rare and expensive selvedge from Italy. It was our lowest margin product despite being the highest price we’ve offered at $127. We saw 3x1 denim out of New York offered this fabric for $650 per pair, so we still think the value is pretty solid.

Stephen and I see a lot of brands “cutting out the middle man” but just keeping the margin for the company. Our goal is to run a much more efficient business and return the savings to you. It’s not just about cutting out the middle man for us. It’s also about lining up supply and demand each time. That’s why we can actually sustain true wholesale prices long term.

Hope this helps explain our model a bit. Thanks.

So, are you off-setting the cost of the more expensive cloth by increasing prices generally? Up to now I'm not seeing any direct requests being met either
post #606 of 622
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Originally Posted by joshgustin View Post
 

Happy to comment on the price points a bit. 

 

We try to be very responsive to what our wearers ask for. Recently we’ve been getting requests for more unusual fabrics - unique warp/weft blends, heavy weights, etc. These rare fabrics are usually also more expensive than traditional indigo/white selvedge denims, and that drives the final prices higher.

 

A great example is the Grey Silk fabric we offered. It’s a very rare and expensive selvedge from Italy. It was our lowest margin product despite being the highest price we’ve offered at $127. We saw 3x1 denim out of New York offered this fabric for $650 per pair, so we still think the value is pretty solid.

 

Stephen and I see a lot of brands “cutting out the middle man” but just keeping the margin for the company. Our goal is to run a much more efficient business and return the savings to you. It’s not just about cutting out the middle man for us. It’s also about lining up supply and demand each time. That’s why we can actually sustain true wholesale prices long term.

 

Hope this helps explain our model a bit. Thanks.

Please bring the Grey Silks back!

post #607 of 622
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Originally Posted by OzzyJones View Post
So, are you off-setting the cost of the more expensive cloth by increasing prices generally? Up to now I'm not seeing any direct requests being met either

 

Nope - each denim is priced on its own. We've released two heavier denims in the last two weeks (in response to customer feedback), a bunch of different weft fabrics (GreyXBlack, BlueXBlack, GreyXGrey, Grey Silk) as well as a darker belt, new plaid shirts, etc.,

 

What requests are you not seeing met?

post #608 of 622
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Originally Posted by gustin View Post

Nope - each denim is priced on its own. We've released two heavier denims in the last two weeks (in response to customer feedback), a bunch of different weft fabrics (GreyXBlack, BlueXBlack, GreyXGrey, Grey Silk) as well as a darker belt, new plaid shirts, etc.,

What requests are you not seeing met?
I didn't see these as direct responses to requests but to be fair I don't follow all the fora you guys are on! Also, aren't the heavier denims re-releases, with increased prices?
I'm not hating, I'm actually just a bit pissed that with price increases and the vat and charges incurred in the UK the stuff isn't in that great price point so much anymore. My heavy Americans wound up costing about £100 based on an $81 price. Still waiting on the double indi re-release tho!
post #609 of 622
I'm wearing my Gustin jeans right now. I just love the fabric. I realize that's Cone's work, not Gustin's but still, I'm really pleased I bought these.

Just felt like sharing the love.
post #610 of 622

Waiting on my first pair right now. Backed the okayamas that ship in December. Really hoping it's early December!

post #611 of 622
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Originally Posted by clubberlang View Post
 

Waiting on my first pair right now. Backed the okayamas that ship in December. Really hoping it's early December!

 

This fabric is at our shop, and will get started with the next cut ticket we submit!

post #612 of 622

I have the Gustin Natural Classic belt. Love it.  Have the Black2 Jeans on order. Belt fit great and am hoping also the jeans will fit. I see some complaining about fit but usually it is become they did not follow Gustin's directions for measureing.  https://www.weargustin.com/fitguide The belt guide is on the belt ordering page.
 

Only suggestions I have had are heavier denim jeans, which they have added and also I believe heavier denim and flannel shirts like Iron Heart sells would go over great. A black shirt like this would be great. Black over Indigo so the black fades to indigo in jeans and shirts also.

 

 

 

 

 

 


Edited by winterland - 11/6/13 at 4:02pm
post #613 of 622
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Originally Posted by winterland View Post
 

I have the Gustin Natural Classic belt. Love it.  Have the Black2 Jeans on order. Belt fit great and am hoping also the jeans will fit. I see some complaining about fit but usually it is become they did not follow Gustin's directions for measureing.  https://www.weargustin.com/fitguide The belt guide is on the belt ordering page.
 

Only suggestions I have had are heavier denim jeans, which they have added and also I believe heavier denim and flannel shirts like Iron Heart sells would go over great. A black shirt like this would be great. Black over Indigo so the black fades to indigo in jeans and shirts also.

 

 

 

 

 

 


IHSH 85 or IHSH 81? Either way, we want a raw heavy duty, western snap button shirt from Gustin! Please make!!!

post #614 of 622

Will you ever offer a black on black? is my only option black on grey

post #615 of 622
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Originally Posted by ebong View Post
 

Will you ever offer a black on black? is my only option black on grey

 

We've done a solid black twill, BlueXBlack, and GreyXBlack.  Will probably continue to do more along those lines, but I'm not positive when.

 

We've got our own official affiliate thread over here now - want to move the convo here? ----> http://www.styleforum.net/t/365731/gustin-official-affiliate-thread

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