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As promised, I stopped by to check out the shirt samples. I can confirm that the final pattern has a 3" unfused, lightly lined collar. I posted some of my initial thoughts here. 

 

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Thanks for the pics and info!
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i stopped reading when you said " After all, these shirts aren’t comparable to Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, GANT, and the like - these are top-of-the line shirts made with name-brand fabric and high-end hardware right here in San Francisco."

 

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Thanks Brillopad for the collar details. According to the website measurements, their Large is an ideal fit for me. With the "skinny" collar issue now at rest, I think I will pull the trigger on one of these.
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i stopped reading when you said " After all, these shirts aren’t comparable to Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, GANT, and the like - these are top-of-the line shirts made with name-brand fabric and high-end hardware right here in San Francisco."

 

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I didn't cringe as much as I laughed.

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i stopped reading when you said " After all, these shirts aren’t comparable to Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, GANT, and the like - these are top-of-the line shirts made with name-brand fabric and high-end hardware right here in San Francisco."


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It's an unusually dumb statement. Of course the shirt is comparable to the others named. Which is why i am not buying one.
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Originally Posted by Dbear View Post

i stopped reading when you said " After all, these shirts aren’t comparable to Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, GANT, and the like - these are top-of-the line shirts made with name-brand fabric and high-end hardware right here in San Francisco."

 

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It's an unusually dumb statement. Of course the shirt is comparable to the others named. Which is why i am not buying one.

 

Sorry if I was misleading. I agree that it was not a very clear way to phrase it.  was just trying to say that in the same way that we're not comparing Gustin denim to Levi's we shouldn't be comparing their shirts to J. Crew prices since the Gustins are made to a higher standard. I fixed the wording on my blog. Thanks.

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Sorry if I was misleading. I agree that it was not a very clear way to phrase it.  was just trying to say that in the same way that we're not comparing Gustin denim to Levi's we shouldn't be comparing their shirts to J. Crew prices since the Gustins are made to a higher standard. I fixed the wording on my blog. Thanks.

With respect to JCrew, you are right. The problem is with the brands that define the OCBD: Brooks, Mercer, O'Connells, and now Ratio and Ledbury. Brooks is the real problem: for many it's the gold standard, and it costs the same or less than Gustin. There is a case to be made for why rhe Gustin belongs to the $200 class rather than the $60 class. Brooks owns the latter.
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With respect to JCrew, you are right. The problem is with the brands that define the OCBD: Brooks, Mercer, O'Connells, and now Ratio and Ledbury. Brooks is the real problem: for many it's the gold standard, and it costs the same or less than Gustin. There is a case to be made for why rhe Gustin belongs to the $200 class rather than the $60 class. Brooks owns the latter.

 

That's a fair point. In my brief interaction with the shirts (and I should underscore that it was brief - I just tried one on for a moment) it was pretty different than BB in that it is alpha sized and has a shorter body, both of which make it a more casual shirt in my eye. If I wanted a neck-and-sleeve dress shirt with a button down collar I would go to BB or somewhere else that does that sort of thing. This is a more casual shirt that I think would probably wear best untucked with jeans or chinos. I think it compares more directly to something like Gant's shirts, which are alpha sized, made in India or China or whatever (I can't remember offhand), and retail for $125+. They also have some of the same details - locker loop, back collar button, for example. Between those two I'd say the Gustin is a much better deal. But I would agree with you about BB owning the classic button down collar dress shirt. After thinking about that more I'd agree that BB and Gustin aren't really after the same thing with their OCBDs. Hopefully that makes sense.

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Originally Posted by brillopad View Post

That's a fair point. In my brief interaction with the shirts (and I should underscore that it was brief - I just tried one on for a moment) it was pretty different than BB in that it is alpha sized and has a shorter body, both of which make it a more casual shirt in my eye. If I wanted a neck-and-sleeve dress shirt with a button down collar I would go to BB or somewhere else that does that sort of thing. This is a more casual shirt that I think would probably wear best untucked with jeans or chinos. I think it compares more directly to something like Gant's shirts, which are alpha sized, made in India or China or whatever (I can't remember offhand), and retail for $125+. They also have some of the same details - locker loop, back collar button, for example. Between those two I'd say the Gustin is a much better deal. But I would agree with you about BB owning the classic button down collar dress shirt. After thinking about that more I'd agree that BB and Gustin aren't really after the same thing with their OCBDs. Hopefully that makes sense.

Brillopad,

Very well argued. You put GUSTIN's OCBD in its proper context, and ultimately it's clear that I'm not really GUSTIN's demographic. I'm more Brooks Brothers: I NEVER wear my shirts untucked, and I want OCBDs to look good under a blazer, with a tie.

Anyway, I wish Josh Gustin all the best and hope he sells a ton of these shirts. I want him to succeed and keep expanding his range. What's next? I'd really like to see chinos, something as well made as Bills but with a much more modern cut, sort of a Bills meets Bonobos. As for shirts, I'm still hoping to see a good chambray work shirt, something like what Engineered Garments puts out, only not at EG prices.
post #341 of 622

I backed the Blue Line 2, I made a mistake in ordering a straight fit jean. Seeing if they will resolve it to the slim fit. But being a tall 6'6'' construction worker I will give feedback to the built tall guys here once they arrive.

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I have ordered three pair of the Straight legs over the last (6) months and found the first pair to be a bit more snug in the waist and hips then other jeans in my "size"; thus I went up a size and all is good. While I'll spend $500 on shoes no problem, I cannot do $200 on jeans. I think the Gustin's are great deal - contemporary, top quality and solid fit. Next it will be a shirt....jtb
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Originally Posted by Owen Meany View Post

I have ordered three pair of the Straight legs over the last (6) months and found the first pair to be a bit more snug in the waist and hips then other jeans in my "size"; thus I went up a size and all is good. While I'll spend $500 on shoes no problem, I cannot do $200 on jeans. I think the Gustin's are great deal - contemporary, top quality and solid fit. Next it will be a shirt....jtb

I'm with you, I too have ordered three pair of their jeans and am very pleased. Struggling with the question of hemming them straight or hemming with enough to roll. I'm an older man and am not sure how the rolled jeans will look on me. Shame because I really want to show off the nice green weft on the one pair. Just ordered a shirt to try, have tried Ledbury, but they are a bit young for me, and like OBDC shirts.

post #344 of 622
are their jeans sanoforized
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