13.5 oz Cone Mills Selvedge, Made in San Fransisco, and only $81? Kickstarter - Page 10

Yeah, it seems odd. On the kickstarter page they say to order up 1 but if its going to stretch ~1 that doesn't really make sense. What is the return policy?

Not to sound snarky, but this isn't everyone's first part of raw jeans, right? I'm sure most would assume they would stretch out like anything else unless given evidence to the contrary because of the weight or weave. 13.5 oz Cone is kind of the Corolla of denim.

No returns for the Kickstarter jeans as Kickstarter doesn't have a method for them, but once they open the website Gustin will accept them.

The "sizing up" recommendation is if you are only going by the typical size number you normally buy, as Gustin isn't using vanity sizing. (If you normally by a 31, buy a 32). The more accurate way, if you have a pair that fits well, is to measure them and compare the actual waist measurement to the waist measurement of the Gustin, ignoring the size number. If your pants measure at an actual 32" and they fit snug, you might consider getting a size 31 (31.5:"), since the waist will ease out. You need to get into them in the first place before they will stretch, so don't cut yourself too short. You have to balance out how tight they will be to start compared to how much they will stretch.

I have only one pair to use as a reference. They were quite snug to start with. I haven't worn them extensively, but they have eased a little bit without getting loose at all. My plan is to go about 0.5"- 1" under what their current waist measures at, whichever one falls in that range. At that size, they will be snug, but I'll still be able to get into them.

BTW, they've added a mention of the 1" easing to the bottom of the current size chart. I imagine it will be in the sizing email when it goes out as well.

Ok, I'm confused. I measured my two pairs of jeans, which I regard as fitting reasonably well, and I get a 34". My natural waist is a 35", however, and my dress pants all are about 35". If I go by the jeans numbers, I should order a 33. But it says both that I should size up and that the waist will stretch and inch, which is a contradiction. Any thoughts?

PS. I have no experience with raw or selvage. My two jeans are 1. 501s labelled 34, and 2. LE Canvas, labelled 34".

 

I think if you were to get size 34, which measure true to a 35, if I'm correct, it should fit you. My experience with selvedge and raw denim jeans is that, if the waist is smaller than your actual measurement, it will stretch out about an inch. I don't think the waist will stretch out that much if it already fits your waist.

I bought them, I like the style.

Hey guys, any updates?

Nothing worth mentioning. It sounds like it's still on track, but will be a while yet.

I got an update from Gustin that there new website will launch April 1 with some all new offerings which I assume means a trim fit that most people asked for in this thread and in other denim forums.

I'm looking forward to receiving my two different pairs of denim from them. According to the updates things seem to be flowing pretty well. Keeping fingers crossed on the fit as all cut and sew processes vary a bit.

I've never seen a pair of Gustin in real life until yesterday when I went to The City. I passed by Rolo, a shop that sells G Star and Nudies. They carried about 3 pair of Gustin's older model right next to the pile of Acne's. To tell the truth, I wasn't really impressed with the fabric nor with the constructions. To be fair, I had just gone to Selfedge and Unionmade to check out some Japanese selvedge and try on a few pairs of Tellason. Anyhow, I didn't really look at those Gustin up close but from what I felt and saw, I thought fronting $205 for a pair of their older model wasn't the best choice for me. Hopefully, their newer products will stand out more. My 0.02...

Interesting because they are, and always have been, sewn in the same workshop in SF as Tellason. (Along with dozens of other brands)

Perhaps their new Japanese and heavier US made denim offerings will impress you? I had a chance to see and hold their new fabric swatches when I interviewed them for my blog and the denim options sure impressed me. But, the magic, will or won't happen when I put on the final jean. And the ETA for my two pairs (one Japanese and one US fabric) isn't until May. I'll let you know then.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still very interested in checking out a pair especially at that price point. When they come out with slim/tapered leg, I'll def. get a pair.

Just because a jean is made in the same factory as other jeans doesn't mean the quality is on par, the quality can be worlds apart. For instance Tony from Tellason actually goes to the factory at least once a week to stay on top of the sewers to make sure the jean is exactly how he wants it to be.. or 3sixteen actually has machines that they bought themselves at the factory that are only to be used on their jeans. Factories in the states which specialize in jean production are quite bad unless you stay on top of them and/or starting buying your own machines for them to use on your production runs.

Industry insight! Appreciate it! I would image the sewers don't get paid too well even though they are "American" laborers.

Sewers? Can we at least call them Sewists or something?