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Ermenegildo Zegna Saks Question

post #1 of 10
1/6/13 at 7:31pm
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Hey SF,

 

I'm very new to the forum and have been very intrigued with what I've read recently - so many people with so much knowledge and wisdom!

 

So I just started looking for a new suit, with 36S and Navy as the two main pre-requisites. I was in a few outlets today (Rack, Last Call and Off 5th) and basically found only 1 suit that was suitable. I was in a rush so just decided to get it since I can always return, but I didn't know much about it and wanted to see if you all could shed some light.

 

On the sleeve is a tag that reads "Cloth Ermenegildo Zegna, Traveller, Wook/Silk, Woven in Italy" Also is the tag "Black - Saks Fifth Avenue". Same tags inside the jacket. From what I've read since getting home, it seems like the suit is only made from Zegna materials, but it does say on the back of the neck "Made in Italy", as well as in other parts of the suit (like the tag hanging off of it).

 

Could you give some input on your thoughts of this suit and maybe answer some questions like: is it actually Zegna and/or Made in Italy; full/half canvas; decent price I should expect to pay (I paid almost $600, retail is $1200); whether I should keep it or keep looking. Also any suggestions on where I can possibly find a 36S Navy suit for a good price would be appreciated!

 

Thanks!

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post #2 of 10
1/6/13 at 7:41pm
Sounds like a Saks private label suit made with Zegna fabric. does the suit fit?
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post #3 of 10
1/6/13 at 8:20pm
Greetings and welcome--

I was in the exact same paradigm as you about a year ago.

Answers to your questions:

-No it's not Zegna technically--it's Zegna fabric, which is made in Italy, but the suit is constructed by Sak's
-They are primarily straight to outlet suits
-It is not canvassed from what I remember
-It is often on sale--I've seen the buy one get one free deals for them where you can get 2 for $700

I actually bought one too but ended up returning it. Glad I did. It's a misleading marketing tactic.

Where do you live? You could check out a Suitsupply if you want a decent fitting, half-canvassed suit for an affordable price.
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post #4 of 10
1/6/13 at 8:36pm
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The suit fits pretty well - of course that was important before purchasing as well.

 

Thanks for those answers that really helped. I live in Michigan and it looks like I'll have to make a trek out to Off 5th for a return soon..

 

Any other feedback would be appreciated too!

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post #5 of 10
1/6/13 at 8:44pm

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Originally Posted by nolanmjj View Post

Greetings and welcome--
I was in the exact same paradigm as you about a year ago.
Answers to your questions:
-No it's not Zegna technically--it's Zegna fabric, which is made in Italy, but the suit is constructed by Sak's
-They are primarily straight to outlet suits
-It is not canvassed from what I remember
-It is often on sale--I've seen the buy one get one free deals for them where you can get 2 for $700
I actually bought one too but ended up returning it. Glad I did. It's a misleading marketing tactic.
Where do you live? You could check out a Suitsupply if you want a decent fitting, half-canvassed suit for an affordable price.

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Originally Posted by ninjali View Post

The suit fits pretty well - of course that was important before purchasing as well.

 

Thanks for those answers that really helped. I live in Michigan and it looks like I'll have to make a trek out to Off 5th for a return soon..

 

Any other feedback would be appreciated too!

I wouldn't be so quick to return the suit. Just because it is made from Zegna cloth and not by Zegna, doesn't necessarily make it a bad suit. In addition, just because it is Saks house label doesn't mean it is in any way constructed by Saks. Some house label suits are made by very desirable makers. Some of the suits that ended up off 5th for Saks were made by Isaia. Maybe you should post a few pictures of the inside label and of the suit so we can get a better idea of what we are looking at. There is no way that one can make a generalization like the one above based on an experience and without handling or seeing your suit.

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post #6 of 10
1/6/13 at 8:55pm
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Here are several pictures I took. First are the tags on the sleeve, second is the "Made in Italy" card attached to it - the little button also says "Sigillo di garanzia" which basically translates to seal of warranty, and the third is the tag inside the jacket pocket - which also says Made in Italy and is what I'm kind of stuck on - if Saks made the suit shouldn't it be made in the US?

 

 

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post #7 of 10
1/7/13 at 1:12am
If you could show us you wearing the suits, it would be a lot easier for us to decide whether you should keep this purchase.
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post #8 of 10
1/7/13 at 2:20pm
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Originally Posted by ninjali View Post

if Saks made the suit shouldn't it be made in the US?
Saks does not make suits- no retailer does. They have them made with their label on it.
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post #9 of 10
4/7/13 at 10:59pm

By special contract, the suits are Zegna fabrics and Zegna design.  The suits are then made here in the US to cut the cost (They are not hand sewn which dramatically ups the cost, and those are available at the full line Saks).  There is also an Italian made line (still not hand sewn) that is also available at the off 5th.  They are characteristically Italian in that they are much more 'roomier" like most high end Italian suits for purposes of tayloring (I learned this the hard way when I bought my first Giorgio Armani and shelled out $400 in alterations).

 

Zegna has added new designs for Saks with the Trim fit lines-makes sense, since they make the suits for Tom Ford, and a "slim fit" line.  Both lines have a 7" drop while the classic designs are still 6".

 

Someone mentioned about the canvas.  Yes, they are half canvased and to my knowledge, not fused.
 

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post #10 of 10
4/8/13 at 11:13am

In here the girl from Saks told me that the mainline of Saks was done by Zegna, but Z Zegna and some Z Zegna are made here in Mexico. But I think the fabric is Loro Piana. 

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