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post #676 of 1529
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Scott -
I wouldn't worry about matching the wedding colors. Especially not with the socks. Matching red socks to red tie to red bridesmaids is way too precious. Wear navy socks. Some brides today have a fixation with matching, and your fiancee' may demand that. But at least consider a different tie...say, in a dark purple PoW check or shepard's check.

How much time do you have scheduled between suit delivery and wedding? You'll want plenty of time, as MTM suits don't always work out perfectly, and you may need to enact some kind of backup plan. Or at the very least, get the suit altered after you receive it.

For the groomsmen, it's common to buy ties for your groomsmen. That saves you from their worst decisions and eases the budget constraint for them a bit.

Thanks for the input! I can probably get away with not matching socks, but I think the lady will want red on the tie. She may surprise me though, so far she's basically said she doesn't much care what I wear, within reason.  I kinda like funky socks, in the sort of way that I like a flashy lining on a jacket. Kinda like business on the outside, party on the inside sort of thing.

 

The suit is being done by a company called Requisite Custom Clothing.  They will be measuring me and taking posture notes on August 10th, and the wedding is November 10th.  I guess the suits are made in Las Vegas.  They say it's plenty of time to make the suit, and then after a fitting make any alterations if necessary.  It's not MTM, and it's not fully bespoke either.  From speaking to them, they meet with me at my home or office, they take the measurements, they take note of posture, they get all that info and send it to their... factory? From there they design the pattern using a CAD program based on exactly what I want.  The parts are cut out, and they have skilled laborers do the simple stitching, and 20+ year master tailors do the difficult handwork.

 

That's what they explained to me anyway...

 

I think that buying ties for the groomsmen is a great idea! Should I get each of them a different tie? Or should I have them all in the same one? I'm fairly new to style do's and dont's.

 

Thanks again!

-Scott

post #677 of 1529
Thread Starter 
Get them all different ones. You probably have plenty of time on the suit, but just be aware that sometimes this doesn't work out. Be ready to go to a store and buy a RTW suit and have it tailored if need be.
post #678 of 1529
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

Get them all different ones. You probably have plenty of time on the suit, but just be aware that sometimes this doesn't work out. Be ready to go to a store and buy a RTW suit and have it tailored if need be.

I did go try on a bunch of suits a few weeks back to get an idea of what fits I like.  I liked the fit of the Hugo Boss James/Sharp suits, and the Armani suit I tried on. IDK a model for the Armani, just that it was their bottom rung priced suit lol.

 

I know the Hugo Boss suit is not one that will last a long long time for me, but in a pinch it would work.

 

-Scott

post #679 of 1529
Hello Everyone:

Thanks for the replies.

So the blue isn't as bright or neon as it appears in the pictures, but it is still not exactly dark/ midnight. This is the link to the item from Black Lapel's site, which I think it more accurately captures the shade: www.blacklapel.com/suits/two-button-solid-royal-blue-tux-shawl-suit.html.

But now I realize that it's kind of ridiculous to post bad pictures, and then asked for reviews, so I'll try to post some better ones tomorrow.
post #680 of 1529
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Do you think black shoes work with a suit that light? I'm not sure they do, which is why I think he is fine with the brown. To go more formal, I think he would need an entirely different suit.
A summery morning suit (e.g. Prince Charles'one) is even lighter in shade and must go with black shoes. It is a wedding and what should be a one off occasion, so black shoes are a must, really do not understand all of this "informality" comments: the groom is wearing a suit and tie, it means is formal enough for black shoes.
post #681 of 1529
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

A summery morning suit (e.g. Prince Charles'one) is even lighter in shade and must go with black shoes. It is a wedding and what should be a one off occasion, so black shoes are a must, really do not understand all of this "informality" comments: the groom is wearing a suit and tie, it means is formal enough for black shoes.

+1.
post #682 of 1529
Thread Starter 
I don't think the argument was that the wedding is so informal as to prohibit black shoes. More that it's informal enough to permit brown shoes. In any case, OP seems to be pretty set against black shoes.
post #683 of 1529
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

As for the BTO wedding, they're the ones that set the dress code for 11:30 am. BTO means if you've got a tux, they'd like you to wear it. So appease them and wear it.

Surely not at 11:30 am though!
post #684 of 1529
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Surely not at 11:30 am though!

It's their wedding. They put black tie on the invite. Other guests will be in black tie. If they said wear Hawaiian shirts, you can't come in suit and tie on principle. By the same token, if they request black tie, you come in black tie if you can.
post #685 of 1529
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

It's their wedding. They put black tie on the invite. Other guests will be in black tie. If they said wear Hawaiian shirts, you can't come in suit and tie on principle. By the same token, if they request black tie, you come in black tie if you can.

I don't know. I think the "optional" gives one leeway to not wear the tuxedo in the first place and generally provides assurances that a good number of people if not a majority will not be wearing a tuxedo. Combine that with the time of day and a suit is probably fine. If the word "optional" wasn't on the invite, I'd agree.
post #686 of 1529
Thread Starter 
A suit is fine, of course. But usually BTO means "black tie if you have it, suit if you don't." It's a dress code chosen by somebody who wants to have a black tie party but doesn't want to exclude anyone based on their lack of a black tie rig.
post #687 of 1529
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Originally Posted by unbelragazzo View Post

I don't think the argument was that the wedding is so informal as to prohibit black shoes. More that it's informal enough to permit brown shoes. In any case, OP seems to be pretty set against black shoes.
The fact is that this thread should be about what is correct to do for a wedding, and many groom to be come here with pretty "set" decision that then by reading comments by other more knowledgable, change their mind. So, we should make sure they understand that a wedding in at least a suit and tie call for black cap toes, that is pretty set. The arguments that were presented this time were that the suit was too light for black shoes, what a non sense. But in general other arguments are presented that are pretty lame too. Once again, suit and tie wedding, formal enough, wear black shoes. Wear brown and you will look like a guest that did not know better, other then the groom
post #688 of 1529
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Originally Posted by marcodalondra View Post

The fact is that this thread should be about what is correct to do for a wedding, and many groom to be come here with pretty "set" decision that then by reading comments by other more knowledgable, change their mind. So, we should make sure they understand that a wedding in at least a suit and tie call for black cap toes, that is pretty set. The arguments that were presented this time were that the suit was too light for black shoes, what a non sense. But in general other arguments are presented that are pretty lame too. Once again, suit and tie wedding, formal enough, wear black shoes. Wear brown and you will look like a guest that did not know better, other then the groom

To be fair, your post is full of quite a bit of nonsense. A wedding in a suit and tie call for black cap toes? While certainly an acceptable shoe, it is not the only one that works here. A daytime wedding on a golf course sounds pretty casual, which is what the groom said he wants. A light gray suit is a relatively casual suit and will look fine with brown shoes.

Are you from the UK? Is that why you are so hung up on black shoes?
post #689 of 1529
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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

To be fair, your post is full of quite a bit of nonsense. A wedding in a suit and tie call for black cap toes? While certainly an acceptable shoe, it is not the only one that works here. A daytime wedding on a golf course sounds pretty casual, which is what the groom said he wants. A light gray suit is a relatively casual suit and will look fine with brown shoes.

Are you from the UK? Is that why you are so hung up on black shoes?
the suit will look fine with brown shoes, but will look fine with black shoes too, and summer wedding that can call for light grey suit, will still demand black shoes according to Classic Menswear "rules". I am from Italy, I live in the UK and across Europe is pretty set that for a wedding you wear a suit, tie and black shoes, preferably cap toes (formal shoes- if you do not wear them at a wedding, when would you wear it.? ) A wedding is a formal and classic event by nature, but for "exceptions" when people like to be different and wear no traditional clothing whatsoever. Once you decide that it is not a beach wedding but that you will at least wear a suit, do it properly.
post #690 of 1529
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