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post #616 of 1663
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The same reason, I think, that most dress shirts now take 4 studs.
post #617 of 1663
Wow, didn't mean to kick the hornets nest smile.gif I guess it sounds like rental is maybe the only option. That sucks. My sizing is something along the lines of 44R or 46R and 34x32 pant. I prefer a slimmer fit, and I'm guessing it will be impossible to get a rental to fit properly. Any advice there? Maybe I could attempt to purchase my own suit and have the groomsmen rent?
post #618 of 1663
At the very, very least, I would strongly recommend not renting *your* wedding suit. If ever there was a case for saving up and getting a good suit that really fits you well, this is it. Youre going to be seeing those pictures for a very long time.

Navy suit, white shirt, black shoes, wedding tie.
post #619 of 1663
Where are you? How old are you? Why are you so sure none of the groomsmen have suits already??
post #620 of 1663
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Originally Posted by meph11 View Post

Wow, didn't mean to kick the hornets nest smile.gif I guess it sounds like rental is maybe the only option. That sucks. My sizing is something along the lines of 44R or 46R and 34x32 pant. I prefer a slimmer fit, and I'm guessing it will be impossible to get a rental to fit properly. Any advice there? Maybe I could attempt to purchase my own suit and have the groomsmen rent?

Renting is the logical option. Don't rent from Men's Wearhouse. Post pics here and we will guide you to good choices.

But yes, getting a custom or made-to-measure suit for yourself and then rentals for the background guys is a good compromise. And no, it will not be impossible to get a rental to fit properly, you just need to be a discerning shopper and go to the best place in your city.
post #621 of 1663
So prevailing SF wedding advice for groomsmen seems to be- don't match exactly because not every cut/hue/etc. flatters every man. Everyone should dress well in a way that individually works, so harmonise, don't synchronise. This sounds great in principle, but I've never seen it actually executed. Any SFers have photos from their own weddings where they followed this advice?

I'm not getting married, but I am curious.
post #622 of 1663
I think it's a bunch of BS and will drive the photographer to madness and make the pictures look like crap.
post #623 of 1663
The point is that by having everyone dress exactly the same, it looks like a uniform. Like they are part of the wait staff. You can tell everyone to wear a navy suit, or a tux, or whatever. The natural small variations will make it so that everyone doesn't look exactly the same. Having everyone wear *exactly* the same thing though looks bad.

This is what I did for my wedding--I asked my groomsmen to wear a navy suit, white shirt, black shoes, and various wedding ties that I provided to them and let them choose from as a groomsmen gift. It worked very well. Still no pictures though *grumble grumble grumble*

Not sure how everyone not wearing the same thing drives the photographer mad and makes the pictures look like crap. By that logic, the photographer wouldn't be able to take a picture of the bride and groom together--they're not wearing the same thing! Even if it did, making decisions based on the preferences of your photographer sounds like a pretty bad idea--it's not his wedding, it's yours.
post #624 of 1663
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The point is that by having everyone dress exactly the same, it looks like a uniform. Like they are part of the wait staff. You can tell everyone to wear a navy suit, or a tux, or whatever. The natural small variations will make it so that everyone doesn't look exactly the same. Having everyone wear *exactly* the same thing though looks bad.
The above point, as I see it: rented clothing (and the idea of perfectly-matched groomsmen) reeks of playing dress-up.

If everybody instead shows up wearing suits that fit properly in dark colors with white shirts and appropriate ties, it looks like a gathering of grown-ass men.

If the bride insists on playing dress-up with her adult Ken dolls, well, good luck with all that. I know which I preferred; my wife trusted my judgment enough to agree.
post #625 of 1663
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Originally Posted by lexybeast View Post

So prevailing SF wedding advice for groomsmen seems to be- don't match exactly because not every cut/hue/etc. flatters every man. Everyone should dress well in a way that individually works, so harmonise, don't synchronise. This sounds great in principle, but I've never seen it actually executed. Any SFers have photos from their own weddings where they followed this advice?

I'm not getting married, but I am curious.

There are some pics earlier in this thread of non-matching wedding parties that were considered nice overall and better than the matchy matchy. Doing a google search, I found it pretty hard to find examples of just non-matching wedding parties in general, much less ones that looked good (not that non-matching looked bad in and of itself, just that the chosen attire was kind of out there to begin with). Interestingly enough, a quick perusal of some of the wedding boards and forums indicates that there may be a push back to the tradition of having wedding party members purchase and wear their own attire (or stuff they already owned), in accordance to preset guidelines. Also interesting to me was that the context was not to return to tradition (in fact, there was no indication that there was even a hint of awareness that mismatched wedding parties were traditionally the norm). Rather, it was something that they had seen at another's wedding, or on Sex and the City, and really liked the look of it as opposed to "convention", and simply wanted to solicit others opinions on it. Certainly, having followed this thread since it's inception, I really couldn't see myself going the matchy-matchy route if I could at all help it and would hope that my future fiance would be open to the same line of thinking.



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Originally Posted by random-adam View Post

The above point, as I see it: rented clothing (and the idea of perfectly-matched groomsmen) reeks of playing dress-up.

If everybody instead shows up wearing suits that fit properly in dark colors with white shirts and appropriate ties, it looks like a gathering of grown-ass men.

If the bride insists on playing dress-up with her adult Ken dolls, well, good luck with all that. I know which I preferred; my wife trusted my judgment enough to agree.
got. Pics? I find myself agreeing with every argument made by sf regulars but when I google groomsmen pics its really hard to find anything but matching rented suits of varying quality. Given that where I live ita going to be very hard to find much in the way of good formalwear hire. I'm getting some resistance from the locals though about nonrented attire and it would be good to have some pics to back up my argument
post #627 of 1663
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got. Pics? I find myself agreeing with every argument made by sf regulars but... Given that where I live ita going to be very hard to find much in the way of good formalwear hire.

https://theblacktux.com/collection
post #628 of 1663
This one must of had the photographer spitting tacks -



Stupid best man forgot the bright scarlet and blue sash olde worlde military fancy dress code! Uncle sitting down in the background remembered blue sash at least but father in law didn't even read the invitation and turned up in a morning suit facepalm.gif
post #629 of 1663
To bring this back to class again, having everyone in identical gear gives away the fact that they don't own this stuff anyway, which, if you're a bit of a snob, may not be a signal you want to send. In England, every upper middle class man is expected to own a morning suit (if you don't you rent one without telling anyone). Thus at a wedding, you simply tell people to turn up in morning dress and that's what they do - naturally they'll all be similar but none identical. If you want to identify the bridal party you perhaps have matching boutonnieres.

Compare these guys who clearly own the stuff (literally and metaphorically, if you know what I mean) -



and these guys, who clearly don't -



Same thing applies to lounge suits.

Remember that not so long ago (fifty years or so) there were no such things as matching suits period, as there was no such thing as an OTR suit. Everyone either went to a local tailor/seamstress and had clothes made, or they bought second hand clothes that had been made for someone else. Either way, it was all unique.
post #630 of 1663
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https://theblacktux.com/collection
Sorry I actually meant pics of groomsmen in no matching suits. As above...
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