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post #1036 of 1546
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Originally Posted by NefariousSabatour View Post

Yeah I mean...I already know all of this.

...I just really want to buy a tux/have a reason to wear it.

Thanks guys.

 

Go buy vintage tuxes together then.  I got mine for $140 at a local consignment store.  Also check out these sites:

 

www.savvyrow.co.uk

www.clermontdirect.com

www.mytuxedo.co.uk

 

I purchased from all of those sites, and can vouch for their good customer service, and prompt shipping to North America (all three are UK sites).   BTG also has a bunch of budget Tuxedo websites listed in its "Buying" section.  Nothing wrong with renting either, though I think you can buy for the same price, or close.

post #1037 of 1546
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post


I dunno what the etiquette is in the US, but dressing "above" your guests is considered inappropriate in most parts of Europe. I would guess the same goes over there in North America. If you know a lot of your friends will not have the means to acquire a tux then I'd opt for an "informal dress" dress code.

 

It is actually quite common for the wedding party to be more formal than the guests here, especially with colour matching rental Tuxedos, worn at three o'clock in the afternoon.  The etiquette has largely gone out the window.  I did not want to make my groomsmen spend $300 or $400 (best case scenario) on morning coats that they would wear once, or even $200 renting them, especially when none of them would be very happy about owning or wearing one.  If we got married in Europe, we would simply have made the dress code morning dress, but no guests would even have known what that meant over here.  We even put "Business Suits" on the invitation, because no one would know what "Lounge Suit" meant - case in point, I didn't until I started researching dress codes for my wedding.

post #1038 of 1546
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Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post
 

 

Go buy vintage tuxes together then.  I got mine for $140 at a local consignment store.  Also check out these sites:

 

www.savvyrow.co.uk

www.clermontdirect.com

www.mytuxedo.co.uk

 

I purchased from all of those sites, and can vouch for their good customer service, and prompt shipping to North America (all three are UK sites).   BTG also has a bunch of budget Tuxedo websites listed in its "Buying" section.  Nothing wrong with renting either, though I think you can buy for the same price, or close.

 

I can also vouch for Clermont Direct, as it's where I bought my striped trousers (pictures earlier in this thread) and a pair of braces. Given that they ship from the U.K., their prices are pretty good. The quality of the pants also seem to be good to my untrained eye (although I can't speak to their other items like jackets, shoes, etc). I was also impressed that it took less than two weeks to receive my order. Sometimes with overseas shipping times, you never really know.

post #1039 of 1546
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Originally Posted by ImTheGroom View Post

It is actually quite common for the wedding party to be more formal than the guests here, especially with colour matching rental Tuxedos, worn at three o'clock in the afternoon.  The etiquette has largely gone out the window.  I did not want to make my groomsmen spend $300 or $400 (best case scenario) on morning coats that they would wear once, or even $200 renting them, especially when none of them would be very happy about owning or wearing one.  If we got married in Europe, we would simply have made the dress code morning dress, but no guests would even have known what that meant over here.  We even put "Business Suits" on the invitation, because no one would know what "Lounge Suit" meant - case in point, I didn't until I started researching dress codes for my wedding.

Yes, it's common here too, but it's not correct according to etiquette. smile.gif

If the original poster would write "Black Tie Optional" on the invitation he would get the chance to wear a tux, which was his intention and plan in the first place, but a business suit would also be accepted for the guests and his mates won't have to spend $ on a tux. Problem solved.
post #1040 of 1546
Thread Starter 
BTO is fine in general, but I think it puts a little bit of pressure on the groomsmen, who will feel more obligated to comply with the black tie dress code. Also it's somewhat ambiguous (do you really mean optional or do you actually want me to wear a tux?). Some people understand that it means wear the tux if you have it or can get it, but not all do, and then they will feel silly if they show up and are the only groomsman without a tux. This leads me to a broader point about dress codes at weddings:

No matter what dress code you choose, make it clear and tell everyone about it.

This way any guest feeling like a schmuck for under or overdressing will have only themselves to blame.

For the OP's specific issue, I would suggest:

- make the wedding BTO for guests
- for groomsmen:
i) figure out who's got a tux already
ii) help out those who don't somehow - get their size and troll around on eBay for a while, search consignment shops in your area, help them find a rental if you can't find a good one to buy (does not mean others can't wear their own tuxes). You want to have your black tie wedding, I think you owe some effort to help out the most important guests, who will be in many photos and up there with you during the ceremony, in conforming to the dress code you have chosen. How much help they need will depend on your resources and theirs, but you shouldn't put someone through too much hardship to be in the wedding party.
post #1041 of 1546
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Originally Posted by Leaves View Post


Yes, it's common here too, but it's not correct according to etiquette. smile.gif

If the original poster would write "Black Tie Optional" on the invitation he would get the chance to wear a tux, which was his intention and plan in the first place, but a business suit would also be accepted for the guests and his mates won't have to spend $ on a tux. Problem solved.

 

Yes  - that is a perfect solution.

post #1042 of 1546
This thread needs a little bump.




post #1043 of 1546
I like the camo followed by hunter orange. It is an excellent way to transition from an outdoor to indoor wedding.
post #1044 of 1546
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Alexander Nash...
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One more Nash... Haha
post #1046 of 1546
Now THAT is CLASS!
post #1047 of 1546

Funny thing, I went to 4-5 weddings in Italy and one in the U.K. (organized by french people though), and I've never seen:

 

 

a. The dress code being stated on the invitation (every man will be wearing a business suit he already owns and likes, and every woman will buy a nice dress because that's what women do for special occasions)

 

b. Matching outfits

 

c. A tuxedo (All weddings were between 10.30 and 17.30)

 

And I never heard of soon-to-be-wife going mental for the lack of coordination.

post #1048 of 1546
Thread Starter 
Consider yourself fortunate.
post #1049 of 1546
Ok, after doing a lot of research and reading black tie guide, I am having trouble answering the following question. Do pleated shirts work with three piece (waistcoat) tuxedos? Should a flat front shirt be worn if I want a three piece tuxedo for my wedding? In my opinion, a narrow pleat shirt would look fine, however your insight would be appreciated. Thank-you in advance.
post #1050 of 1546
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Originally Posted by mikeharo View Post

Ok, after doing a lot of research and reading black tie guide, I am having trouble answering the following question. Do pleated shirts work with three piece (waistcoat) tuxedos? Should a flat front shirt be worn if I want a three piece tuxedo for my wedding? In my opinion, a narrow pleat shirt would look fine, however your insight would be appreciated. Thank-you in advance.

 

There are a couple of Black Tie specific threads where I would post if you want a bit broader perspective.  They do work just fine.  I was at dinner with a fellow in just that combination a couple of weeks ago, and he looked very sharp.  I'm personally a fan of Marcella and flat front shirts, in general, but if you like pleats, there is nothing wrong with them at all.

 

And here is a random picture I've found with an example:

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