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Bingo - FedEx bill of $26.48
post #272 of 382
So I'm currently experiencing my first ever "lost package" ordeal in my 31 years of existence... Placed my usual order with TBS and they used their normally unbelievably efficient FedEx International service and after realizing that my package was stuck in Tennessee (main customs hub) for about 5 days I finally called and was advised that my package was empty and that it arrived without any contents inside (tampered box & missing contents)... Opened an investigation and blah blah blah... Has anybody dealt with something like this with TBS/FedEx before? I just want to know what I'm in for...

Keep in mind I'm very aware that the TBS dudes are cool as shit as I have been buying from them for years but I have a hunch that this particular transaction may be a little different, hopefully I'm wrong.
post #273 of 382
I want to order something from Europe. Cost with shipping and vat deducted is about $370 USD.

They only ship UPS to N. America.

If I get it shipped to Canada I will pay about $120-$130 customs, for a total of about $500.

I could get it shipped to a UPS store in upstate NY and pick it up myself across the border, no big deal, done it many times for items shipped within the US.

Question: Does UPS charge the same customs for a package coming into the States as they do in Canada?
post #274 of 382
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Originally Posted by ThomSquared View Post

So I'm currently experiencing my first ever "lost package" ordeal in my 31 years of existence... Placed my usual order with TBS and they used their normally unbelievably efficient FedEx International service and after realizing that my package was stuck in Tennessee (main customs hub) for about 5 days I finally called and was advised that my package was empty and that it arrived without any contents inside (tampered box & missing contents)... Opened an investigation and blah blah blah... Has anybody dealt with something like this with TBS/FedEx before? I just want to know what I'm in for...

Keep in mind I'm very aware that the TBS dudes are cool as shit as I have been buying from them for years but I have a hunch that this particular transaction may be a little different, hopefully I'm wrong.

 

Damn that's fucked up.

 

Most retailers get insurance included I am pretty sure so you'll likely just get a refund.

post #275 of 382
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

Damn that's fucked up.

Most retailers get insurance included I am pretty sure so you'll likely just get a refund.

Well, this may be the rare instance in which marking down value may fuck you up, since you cannot insure a package for more than the stated value. Customs may also take a dim view of a retailer sending a "gift".
post #276 of 382

ThomSquared has nothing to worry about, he'll get reimbursed or if he prefers store credit. Customs can frown all they want but they don't have jurisdiction in Sweden or any other country in the world. 

post #277 of 382
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Originally Posted by LelandJ View Post

ThomSquared has nothing to worry about, he'll get reimbursed or if he prefers store credit. Customs can frown all they want but they don't have jurisdiction in Sweden or any other country in the world. 

All I'm saying is that the package cannot be insured for more than the declared value. And Tres bien has incentive to not make a fuss. Customs has no jurisdiction on Sweden, but TBS does a lot of business to the US, and customs can easily just flag all their packages. And once you are in the system, you don't get out.

It will boil down to how tbs decides to handle the issue.
post #278 of 382
I got my first overvalued item from tres bien earlier this week too, t shirt marked $35 when price was $29

I think tbs would probably just refund directly
post #279 of 382
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All I'm saying is that the package cannot be insured for more than the declared value. And Tres bien has incentive to not make a fuss. Customs has no jurisdiction on Sweden, but TBS does a lot of business to the US, and customs can easily just flag all their packages. And once you are in the system, you don't get out.

It will boil down to how tbs decides to handle the issue.

 

I heard in Germany for certain collectibles their customs randomly open low value packages and look up eBay transactions to charge on the real non-declared value if it doesn't match the shipping form. Their taxes are high so package inspection and online fishing are affordable for them. 

post #280 of 382
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Originally Posted by LelandJ View Post

Customs can frown all they want but they don't have jurisdiction in Sweden or any other country in the world. 

That is not correct.

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Originally Posted by LelandJ View Post

I heard in Germany for certain collectibles their customs randomly open low value packages and look up eBay transactions to charge on the real non-declared value if it doesn't match the shipping form. Their taxes are high so package inspection and online fishing are affordable for them. 

It's not uncommon for european customs to open packages, just to check if the item really has the declared value, also I I'm pretty sure its illegal to purposely under declare parcels.


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US Customs Act to do so, but section 592 of your act talks about civil penalties

Civil Penalties
Section 592 of the Tariff Act of 1930 is the basic and most widely used customs penalty provision for the importation of goods. It prescribes monetary penalties against any person who imports, attempts to import, or aids or procures the importation of merchandise by means of false or fraudulent documents, statements, omissions or practices, concerning any material fact. Penalties may be applied even in situations where there is no loss of revenue.
Section 592 infractions are divided into three categories of culpability, each giving rise to a different maximum penalty:
Fraud, an act or omission done intentionally to defraud the United States Department of Revenue. The maximum civil penalty for a violation is the domestic value of the merchandise in the entry or entries concerned.
Gross negligence, an act or omission with actual knowledge of, or wanton disregard for, the relevant facts and a disregard of section 592 obligations. The maximum civil penalty is the lesser of the domestic value of the merchandise or four times the loss of revenue (actual or potential). IF the infraction does not affect revenue, the maximum penalty is 40% of the dutiable value of the good.
Negligence, involving a failure to exercise due care in ascertaining the material facts or in ascertaining the obligations under section 592. The maximum civil penalties are the same for gross negligence, except the lesser of twice the domestic value of the merchandise or twice the loss of revenue is used. The penalty cannot exceed 20% of the dutiable value.
The Customs Modernization Act amended section 592 to apply existing penalties for false information to information transmitted electronically and allows Customs to recover unpaid taxes and fees resulting from 592 violations. It also introduced the requirement that importers use "reasonable care" in making entry and providing the initial classification and appraisement, establishing a "shared responsibility" between Customs and importers, thus allowing Customs to rely on the accuracy of the information submitted and streamline entry procedures. To the extent that an importer fails to use reasonable care, Customs may impose a penalty under section 592.
post #281 of 382

I bought an item from denmark a while back from a very small shop and requested they mark down the value.

 

It came, but when I got the item it had no tag attached and the package had no receipt. 

 

I understand why now.

post #282 of 382
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Originally Posted by Distorbiant View Post

I bought an item from denmark a while back from a very small shop and requested they mark down the value.

It came, but when I got the item it had no tag attached and the package had no receipt. 

I understand why now.
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Because it's completely illegal.
post #283 of 382
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Originally Posted by Find Finn View Post


That is not correct.
It's not uncommon for european customs to open packages, just to check if the item really has the declared value, also I I'm pretty sure its illegal to purposely under declare parcels.

 

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Because it's completely illegal.
 

My point is that a foreign custom agency can't levy a fine against an exporter in another country. 

post #284 of 382
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My point is that a foreign custom agency can't levy a fine against an exporter in another country. 

No, but they can hold up every single package from that exporter for inspection.

It's naive to think that tax authorities can't duck you up more that pretty much anything else.
post #285 of 382
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post

Customs has no jurisdiction on Sweden, but TBS does a lot of business to the US, and customs can easily just flag all their packages. And once you are in the system, you don't get out.
 
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Originally Posted by LA Guy View Post


No, but they can hold up every single package from that exporter for inspection.

 

That's why there aren't any foreign stores with high export volume who mark down packages either automatically without request or on request.

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