Originally Posted by PhiloVance
I think they're C&J benchgrades. Grenson doesn't do soles like that - at the $600 price, the Masterpieces usually have the channeled sole and the scripted "Made in England", similar to Edward Green.
+1 on rebels comments. Although if you can wait, you might get a better deal if you wait to grab a pair of suede C&J Peals from BB the day after X-Mas. Usually $500 with 40% off. And I think you get another 15% off if you buy before noon.
If you're still in the area, walk down the street to Brooks and do a price check. I think on 12/26 you can get peals for less than $300.
This is partially correct. Grenson does do open channel shoes for Paul Stuart. I know their double soles are not closed. I don't know if they have other models that are open. I think the shoes above are C&J, but I'm not sure without the internal writing.
I think that most C&J for BB are on blobby lasts, so I usually avoid them. Except for a few select models, I've never been drawn to any C&J for Brooks Brothers shoes.
To the OP's question: Regardless of whether they are Grenson or C&J, they are a fair price. Not great, but it will take some work and waiting to get a equivalent shoe for considerably less money. Also, the real question is how much you like the model and the fit of the shoe. If either of these two is missing, it doesn't matter what the price tag says.