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post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hi again all,

 

I will have an internship on capitol hill this coming spring and I need a good pair of men's suits for it because what I have now is won't do. I'm shopping around for something  that won't take a heavy toll on the wallet but are well-made and look good none the less.

 

So far I've narrowed it down to three-brands that would fit my need's. These are Jos. A. Bank, Brooks Brothers, and the British clothing store which has just entered the U.S. market-Charles Tyrwhitt.

 

In terms of what I'm looking for I would like  suits with a European or British type fit rather then an American one which looks very bulky to me hence while I'm kind of partial to Chalres Tyrwhitt but I'd like to hear some opinions none the less.

 

Jos A. Bank-

 

Pros-Offers good deal's,  alot  of their suit brands seem pretty decent, pretty popular on the hill

 

Con's- Alot of their suits also seem to be of very shoddy quality, bulky fit

 

 

Charles Tyrwhitt-

 

Pro's-Has the type of fit I would like to go with, not heavy on the wallet but seems to offer a good suit none the less,

 

Con's-I hear some of their fitting for the cuffs etc is unchangable, I've also been warned about the quality of their suits even though they seem fine from inspecting them.

 

Brook Brothers

 

Pros-Regarded as very high quality, seems to have some styles that appeal to me.

 

Con's-Again their quality seems to be on the decline, still seems to have the fit  problems that Jos A. Bank has, seems overpriced as well.

 

 

Well this is that I've observed but I would like to hear from those who have worn these brands and have more experenice on these matters then I,

 

Thanks in advance for any replies I get.

post #2 of 21
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Originally Posted by ShoppingAround1 View Post

Hi again all,

 

I will have an internship on capitol hill this coming spring and I need a good pair of men's suits for it because what I have now is won't do. I'm shopping around for something  that won't take a heavy toll on the wallet but are well-made and look good none the less.

 

So far I've narrowed it down to three-brands that would fit my need's. These are Jos. A. Bank, Brooks Brothers, and the British clothing store which has just entered the U.S. market-Charles Tyrwhitt.

 

In terms of what I'm looking for I would like  suits with a European or British type fit rather then an American one which looks very bulky to me hence while I'm kind of partial to Chalres Tyrwhitt but I'd like to hear some opinions none the less.

 

Jos A. Bank-

 

Pros-Offers good deal's,  alot  of their suit brands seem pretty decent, pretty popular on the hill

 

Con's- Alot of their suits also seem to be of very shoddy quality, bulky fit

 

 

Charles Tyrwhitt-

 

Pro's-Has the type of fit I would like to go with, not heavy on the wallet but seems to offer a good suit none the less,

 

Con's-I hear some of their fitting for the cuffs etc is unchangable, I've also been warned about the quality of their suits even though they seem fine from inspecting them.

 

Brook Brothers

 

Pros-Regarded as very high quality, seems to have some styles that appeal to me.

 

Con's-Again their quality seems to be on the decline, still seems to have the fit  problems that Jos A. Bank has, seems overpriced as well.

 

 

Well this is that I've observed but I would like to hear from those who have worn these brands and have more experenice on these matters then I,

 

Thanks in advance for any replies I get.

 Joseph A. Bank is probably the lowest quality of the 3. I believe only their Signature Gold line is half-canvassed. All others are fused. They also have a reputation for falling apart. Also, don't ever buy their suits at full price. They are only priced appropriately during 4 for 1 deals or 70% off or whatever.

 

Brooks Brothers 1818 line is half-canvassed and decent quality. They are a little pricey though, probably around $1100. If you find a good sale, you might be OK. The Golden Fleece line is even better, but more expensive. They do offer several fit options, so you should be able to find something that works.

 

CT is a good compromise. I believe all of their offerings are half-canvassed. They all come with working button holes, so you do have an issue with adjusting the sleeve length too much. Try them on. If you can work with the cuffs, then go for it.

 

Is there a Suit Supply in DC?

post #3 of 21

I don't know anything about the third one, but IMO, BB and Jos A Bank are comparable. The difference is that Jos A Bank has a few ultra shxtty lines of products that drag the image of the entire brand down. On the other end BB cashes in on it's history and brand strength by charging ridiculously high prices. IMO, neither JAB nor BB is better than average.

post #4 of 21
I will have an internship on capitol hill this coming spring - what will your job be? secretary? junior staff for a senator? research? who will you be working with - others your age? old farts?

the British clothing store which has just entered the U.S. market-Charles Tyrwhitt. - CT has physically been in the US for over a decade FYI.

Jos A. Bank - avoid unless you seriously just want 4 suits for the price of one. Even then, strongly reconsider.
Charles Tyrwhitt - I suppose worth a look if you like the fit
Brooks Brothers - the more accepted brand on this site, but you will pay more.

I would consider Suit Supply and, if you don't mind the slimmer lapel, J Crew. Both younger looks but still fairly classic design if you stick to the staples.
Good luck!
post #5 of 21
jos a bank and BB are not on the same level, come on now.

BB golden fleece

BB 1818


CT



JAB

This includes construction, fit, etc. CT suits are fused unless it explicitly states half canvas construction. I have a few, they fit well, and have held up just fine (most of mine are half canvas, but i have a few fused ones also).

BB golden fleece is in a different league, full canvas, nice materials, etc. Their 1818 line is still better quality than the other two.

JAB offers some half and full canvas suits, but in my experience, even the slim fitting stuff fits terribly for a slim person.

Why not suit supply?
post #6 of 21

or indochino (jk)

 

go suitsupply or jcrew. Jcrew on sale is probably worth it, they have 30% promos going constantly and occasionally they work on suits. If you want something simple, I would also try benjamin from ehaberdasher, been hearing great things about them. The benjamin's look more like basic suits, while suitsupply is a little different, especially their super wide lapels or jcrew with their slim lapels. (I like both)

post #7 of 21

Looks like there is a Suit Supply in DC. I would go with them.

post #8 of 21
Ignore VinnyMac - he has some weird axe to grind on BB vs. JAB.

What is your budget? Brooks Brothers 1818 suits can regularly be had for $800 or so, or 2 for 1500 depending on the promotion. You have to wait for the sales, but if your internship isn't until the summer you should be fine. If they fit your budget I strongly recommend them over the other options. If you get two good suits now you will be all set for interviews and for your first job after graduation. They should last you for years.

I bought more suits in my pre-SF days than I care to admit, and the vast majority of them are either shitty, dated, or both. But I was lucky that the very first suit of my adult life, a gift from my dad for job interviews, was a basic charcoal suit from J. Press. After 15 years it still looks good, is still appropriate for any business situation, and is still (mostly) in great shape. With CT or SuitSupply there is a risk you won't wear it when fashions inevitably change in a few years. A BB suit (not from their Milano line, please) will never look fashionable, but it will also never look stupid. Better to pay a little more now if you can, IMO.

If budget doesn't allow for BB (though I assume it does, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it) CT isn't bad, though as I noted above it's a little more "fashionably styled". I have no direct experience with SuitSupply. JAB can be good value if you don't let their salespeople sell you something two sizes too big... if nothing else the salespeople at BB will probably make sure you look decent when you walk out the door.
post #9 of 21

Vinnie Mac just likes to get a rise out of people by saying idiotic things.

 

As for buying an 1818, December 26 is the best day to buy a suit.  30% off plus an additional 15-20% off for purchases that morning.  Go try something on next week and have the SA set it aside until the 26th.  I got my 1818 suit for $505 plus tax last year.

post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by CousinDonuts View Post

I will have an internship on capitol hill this coming spring - what will your job be? secretary? junior staff for a senator? research? who will you be working with - others your age? old farts?
the British clothing store which has just entered the U.S. market-Charles Tyrwhitt. - CT has physically been in the US for over a decade FYI.
Jos A. Bank - avoid unless you seriously just want 4 suits for the price of one. Even then, strongly reconsider.
Charles Tyrwhitt - I suppose worth a look if you like the fit
Brooks Brothers - the more accepted brand on this site, but you will pay more.
I would consider Suit Supply and, if you don't mind the slimmer lapel, J Crew. Both younger looks but still fairly classic design if you stick to the staples.
Good luck!

I'm most likely going to be attached to a House Rep's staff so I will be interacting with all sorts of people from old farts to younger people and doing all sorts of stuff. Mainly mundane office like delivering papers, giving tours, answering phones, some research here and there etc.

 

Hmm didn't know CT has been around in the states that long considering that they actually have only two stores in the U.S. one in D.C. and another in NYC.

 

I'm looking for a thinner more molded to my body look not the bulky style typically seen in American suits however not trendy or hipsterish ether.

 

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Originally Posted by mcbrown View Post

Ignore VinnyMac - he has some weird axe to grind on BB vs. JAB.
What is your budget? Brooks Brothers 1818 suits can regularly be had for $800 or so, or 2 for 1500 depending on the promotion. You have to wait for the sales, but if your internship isn't until the summer you should be fine. If they fit your budget I strongly recommend them over the other options. If you get two good suits now you will be all set for interviews and for your first job after graduation. They should last you for years.
I bought more suits in my pre-SF days than I care to admit, and the vast majority of them are either shitty, dated, or both. But I was lucky that the very first suit of my adult life, a gift from my dad for job interviews, was a basic charcoal suit from J. Press. After 15 years it still looks good, is still appropriate for any business situation, and is still (mostly) in great shape. With CT or SuitSupply there is a risk you won't wear it when fashions inevitably change in a few years. A BB suit (not from their Milano line, please) will never look fashionable, but it will also never look stupid. Better to pay a little more now if you can, IMO.
If budget doesn't allow for BB (though I assume it does, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it) CT isn't bad, though as I noted above it's a little more "fashionably styled". I have no direct experience with SuitSupply. JAB can be good value if you don't let their salespeople sell you something two sizes too big... if nothing else the salespeople at BB will probably make sure you look decent when you walk out the door.

 

My budget is around a $1,000 or so for two suits total give or take a little less.

 

My internship should start around Jan or so

 

I guess it's try with BB Vs. Jos A. Bank and even CT that you get what you pay for.

 

However, looking at both CT and Suit Supply(which tends to air more on the trendy side) I think at the former I should be able to get something that is timeless(i.e. something that will always be in style). As CT had a pretty diverse selection of styles aval.

 

I will admit if it isn't obvious by now that I'm partial to CT as I have several of their dress shirts/ties and I've found them to be of pretty good quality overall. However, I also like BB and I am keenly aware from what I've heard that buying suits vs. anything else can be an entirely diffirent animal.

post #11 of 21
Quote:
Originally Posted by mcbrown View Post

Ignore VinnyMac - he has some weird axe to grind on BB vs. JAB.
What is your budget? Brooks Brothers 1818 suits can regularly be had for $800 or so, or 2 for 1500 depending on the promotion. You have to wait for the sales, but if your internship isn't until the summer you should be fine. If they fit your budget I strongly recommend them over the other options. If you get two good suits now you will be all set for interviews and for your first job after graduation. They should last you for years.
I bought more suits in my pre-SF days than I care to admit, and the vast majority of them are either shitty, dated, or both. But I was lucky that the very first suit of my adult life, a gift from my dad for job interviews, was a basic charcoal suit from J. Press. After 15 years it still looks good, is still appropriate for any business situation, and is still (mostly) in great shape. With CT or SuitSupply there is a risk you won't wear it when fashions inevitably change in a few years. A BB suit (not from their Milano line, please) will never look fashionable, but it will also never look stupid. Better to pay a little more now if you can, IMO.
If budget doesn't allow for BB (though I assume it does, otherwise you wouldn't have mentioned it) CT isn't bad, though as I noted above it's a little more "fashionably styled". I have no direct experience with SuitSupply. JAB can be good value if you don't let their salespeople sell you something two sizes too big... if nothing else the salespeople at BB will probably make sure you look decent when you walk out the door.

Regarding the Suit Supply suit, it depends on which cut you get. The Washington may be a bit fashion-forward, but the Jort or London are pretty classic.

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by CousinDonuts View Post

I will have an internship on capitol hill this coming spring - what will your job be? secretary? junior staff for a senator? research? who will you be working with - others your age? old farts?

Capitol Hill internship has a pretty set meaning, though exactly what it comprises depends on the office. No matter where he is, he'll probably get to meet a few members of Congress, will be working extensively with the staff of the office he's in, all the way from Staff Assistants (who he'll sub for on phones while on public display in the front office) to the Chief of Staff. Doubly so in the house, where you essentially don't have an entire tier of junior staff that the Senate does. He'll also be escorting visitors around the place, and taking them on tours of the US Capitol. Most of his work is going to be processing mail through a computer system, but he'll be fairly visible to the public and to other staffers as well as members throughout the day.

So yeah- he needs a suit or two that's at least presentable and fairly conservative. Most offices are professional attire while in session (which means casual fridays in the Senate, since they're usually not working), though some offices like anyone working in the front office to dress professionally regardless, since they're the first thing visitors to the office see, so he'll need to be prepared to dress in, if not a suit and tie every day, a coat and tie every day. A navy blazer goes a long way.
post #13 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hi all,

 

I went shopping today to get a couple of suits as the office I’m with on Capitol Hill wants me to start my internship much earlier then I originally intended.

 

Due to these time constraints I decided to go with the BB outlet’’s 346 suits along with a couple of ties of the same edition. Now I know from reading both here and elsewhere on the web that this line of products from BB is far from ideal but it was the most convenient and the fast-moving time  limits have really prevented me from getting something from anywhere else (regular BB, CT, et, and I’ll need to get the BB 346 tailored quickly as well.

 

However, overall I’m pleased with the BB 346’s that I got(one in navy herringbone and a solid Charcoal) The suits didn’t seem to be of shotty construction even though they are machine made and they seem to fit pretty well too(not bulky). Also from feeling it and expecting the materials in general you wouldn’t be able to tell the difference it seems between the two suits I have an a regular BB suit .

 

I’m still kind of wary esp. since I’ll be using it quite heavily like 2-3 times per week over the upcoming half a year and the 346 ties I also bought seem a little stiff and thin in their material compared to the original BB ties.   

 

I guess all we can do is find out. I actually think it’s kind of good that I got a BB 346 instead of a regular BB or even a CT suit as I heard on Capitol Hill you don’t want to outshine anyone else too much clothing wise-and the suit is def more than presentable.

post #14 of 21
They're not shotty, but are they shoddy?

J/k. I'm sure you'll be fine with those for an internship. Good luck. Try not to turn into too evil a person while you're there.
post #15 of 21
If you thought something seemed off then why buy?
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