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post #166 of 203

post #167 of 203
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Originally Posted by Steve Papas View Post

According to Wiki:  The term "Semi-formal" denotes black-tie for men in evenings, rather than white-tie formalwear. There is a reason why they did not state a jacket. It is a given.  Many students like to get creative and wear tuxedos with t-shirts that have pictures of a bow tie.  It is your prom, and do as you like.  But if you show up without a jacket, not only will you be badly dressed, but you will be the only one without one.   If people then ask you  where is your jacket, do not say to them do not say to them you thought jackets were not allowed.  They will laugh at you.  Just say to them you are being rebellious and anti establishment.  Some of them might even think you are cool. 

 

See, this post is a prime example of someone not even remotely understanding "context."  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you're not from the USA apparently, but it's still a great example of context being everything.  While "semi-formal" does traditionally denote "black tie", it is almost universally used now to mean "a step or so below wearing a regular suit."

post #168 of 203
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

 

See, this post is a prime example of someone not even remotely understanding "context."  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you're not from the USA apparently, but it's still a great example of context being everything.  While "semi-formal" does traditionally denote "black tie", it is almost universally used now to mean "a step or so below wearing a regular suit."

Context is everything -- and I've never heard of a prom at which black tie would be unacceptable. It's probable that they're using "semi-formal" correctly.

post #169 of 203
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

The inability of SF members to operate at all within the confines of "context" is hilariously unfortunate.
The level of social and emotional intelligence on this forum is abysmal on a good day.
For f*ck's sake , half of the people here would've declined a life vest on the titanic if the orange clashed with your evening wear.

With all due respect for the forum and its members here, I definitely agree with you here. We could see how this kid climbed up the sarto ladder quite a few steps with the help of the members' advice. If he doesn't obey to all the/your rules, give him a break! No one expects to be an immaculate dresser with his age. I wonder how you all have dressed at your prom. I am definitely guilty of a couple of mistakes, but so what... Sometimes (often!) you have to make mistakes, and you look back and learn from them. It's most important to feel good, and belonging to your peer group is part of that. If that means to commit sartorial mistakes, so be it. There are more important things in life at this age. You can hone your skills later anyway.

 

Buffalo, have fun at your prom. Stick to the forum and you'll be an ace dresser in no time. Spend the money on your education and other more important investments, though, even if it means to stick with H&M stuff for quite a while.

post #170 of 203
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Originally Posted by BackInTheJox View Post

 

See, this post is a prime example of someone not even remotely understanding "context."  I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since you're not from the USA apparently, but it's still a great example of context being everything.  While "semi-formal" does traditionally denote "black tie", it is almost universally used now to mean "a step or so below wearing a regular suit."


Unfortunately you are correct.   I did some more research and found  a school site that was advising students what to  wear at a semi-formal school dance.  The definition of semi-formal was indeed changed, much to my ignorance.  As an example, they said that the boys could wear denim as long as it is "new" and "dark in colour".  They also said that boys could also wear a vest or sweater.  This was advise for a dance but not a prom.

 

I say "unfortunately" because it is a sign of the times were dressing nice is now frowned upon in society.  They say that students are our future.  They have taken a function were men were required to wear tuxes, and now they do not even have to wear suits.  What does that say about the direction society is heading when it comes to the clothes we wear. 

 

My advise to the OP is to have fun at your dance.  This means wearing clothes that you feel comfortable in.  If feeling comfortable means fitting in, wear the vest.  Personally, I would wear a vest with contrasting, yet complimentary colours.   Put on your dress pants and the shirt you want plan on wearing to the prom, then head to the stores and try on different coloured vests (including black), to see which looks the best on you.   If you really want to look good ditch the vest and wear a jacket.

post #171 of 203
Yes, listen to Herr Zeppelin. Good advice.
post #172 of 203
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Originally Posted by Zeppelin View Post

With all due respect for the forum and its members here, I definitely agree with you here. We could see how this kid climbed up the sarto ladder quite a few steps with the help of the members' advice. If he doesn't obey to all the/your rules, give him a break! No one expects to be an immaculate dresser with his age. I wonder how you all have dressed at your prom. I am definitely guilty of a couple of mistakes, but so what... Sometimes (often!) you have to make mistakes, and you look back and learn from them. It's most important to feel good, and belonging to your peer group is part of that. If that means to commit sartorial mistakes, so be it. There are more important things in life at this age. You can hone your skills later anyway.

 

Buffalo, have fun at your prom. Stick to the forum and you'll be an ace dresser in no time. Spend the money on your education and other more important investments, though, even if it means to stick with H&M stuff for quite a while.

I wore a tux with a blue tie and matching vest to match my date junior year, and I regretted it later. I wore a one-button tux with peak lapels, black vest, and black bowtie to senior prom and looked much better. What's the use of asking for advice you won't take?

post #173 of 203
Thread Starter 
Looks like I may be going dark grey vest to avoid a more waiter-y black vest along with a grey tie.
post #174 of 203

prom wasn't that long ago for me. the way i understood the dress code then was that they were minimum requirements for entry. i don't think you would be turned out if you went with your suit and tie. ask your friends if they'd want to do in suits and ties with you; that way you wouldn't be out of place.
 

post #175 of 203
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Originally Posted by BuffaloWang View Post

Looks like I may be going dark grey vest to avoid a more waiter-y black vest along with a grey tie.


I think that would look better.  As for the tie, try a light grey tie.  You can  even try a red or blue coloured tie with patterns.  Just make sure there is grey in the patterns to tie it all in.

post #176 of 203
Thread Starter 
So then a light grey tie with the dark grey vest?

Vest color:
post #177 of 203

That's certainly an improvement. biggrin.gif

post #178 of 203
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Originally Posted by Chase H View Post

That's certainly an improvement. biggrin.gif

It's been like that for awhile. I just changed the black vest for a grey one.

Just can't figure out what color tie now
post #179 of 203
Thread Starter 
Grey colored tie and what color boutonnière/corsage.

We are thinking white or red.
post #180 of 203

When dressing up a vest, I would apply the same basic principles that I would use to dress up a jacket.  Between the shirt,tie and vest there should be at least one item that has a pattern in it.  If between  the three there are no patterns, it looks boring.  If all three have patterns it looks too busy.  When choosing a tie, my preference is always a contrasting colour.  Then I look for colours in the patterns of  the tie that are the same colours as the jacket and shirt.  If I cannot find one that matches both, then I choose a colour that matches the jacket. 

 

If you do go with a red coloured tie, then go with a white boutonnière.  If you want to go with the grey or any other coloured tie, go with the red boutonnière.

 

You can also do an internet search on "dressing up a vest for men".  There you can find many examples of vest, shirt, tie combos.

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