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post #16 of 49
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Originally Posted by WildeMan View Post

Best value automobiles available, IMO.
I was picking up my niece and nephew from school a month ago, and they asked me to wait so that their friends could see them getting into my Mercedes. Happy to oblige, but my new C-Class cost less than their mother's Honda Odyssey...

Value? I don't know. Wait until you have a few services under your belt. Japanese cars are a fraction of the price from a maintenance perspective. In addition, most German cars use more fuel.

Just to say you had a lower purchase price doesn't tell a complete story.

I've driven German cars for the last 15 years. I feel I sacrifice some value for the quality of the ride. I don't drive a Merc, my current car is an Audi, they are pretty comparable cost of ownerships. 4 brakes for me is a $1500 bill. An Odyssey would probably cost $400. Talking to other owners I know, its generally understood you don't go this route to be frugal. Even a Jetta would cost more to maintain than an Odyssey.
post #17 of 49
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Value? I don't know. Wait until you have a few services under your belt. Japanese cars are a fraction of the price from a maintenance perspective. In addition, most German cars use more fuel.
Just to say you had a lower purchase price doesn't tell a complete story.
I've driven German cars for the last 15 years. I feel I sacrifice some value for the quality of the ride. I don't drive a Merc, my current car is an Audi, they are pretty comparable cost of ownerships. 4 brakes for me is a $1500 bill. An Odyssey would probably cost $400. Talking to other owners I know, its generally understood you don't go this route to be frugal. Even a Jetta would cost more to maintain than an Odyssey.

http://www.vw.com/en/owners/parts-and-accessories/service/carefree-maintenance.html
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With no-charge scheduled Carefree Maintenance, Volkswagen will take care of changing your oil, rotating your tires, and more for three years or 36,000 miles, whichever comes first, so you can focus on the important things. That’s the Power of German Engineering.

Probably not.
post #18 of 49
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Originally Posted by JayJay View Post

I also prepaid for service, and I'm glad I did. Huge savings. Also, they offered a loaner, but I didn't need one, so alternatively, they offered to pick the car up from my house and return it. The best thing though is that I wanted to switch out my summer tires for winter tires, but my car is an AMG with staggered wheels for which MB doesn't offer a winter tire set up. The guys searched other vendors until they found a staggered set in the OEM specs. By the way, I also checked with other vendors and they all wanted to sell me front and rears in the same size. ffffuuuu.gif

I've dealt with this dealership for over 10 years now and have witnessed a complete transformation in their approach to service. The guys are great and the service they provide is impeccable, and this is coming from a customer who had a five figure repair bill on my previous car.

That's because the value of a staggered tire setup is generally increased lateral traction in good road conditions. Staggered setups are generally of little or even negative value in adverse weather conditions which is why narrower tires are often preferred for winter and especially for snow conditions.
post #19 of 49
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Originally Posted by dah328 View Post

That's because the value of a staggered tire setup is generally increased lateral traction in good road conditions. Staggered setups are generally of little or even negative value in adverse weather conditions which is why narrower tires are often preferred for winter and especially for snow conditions.
MB discussed this with me - they felt the car's safety mechanisms work best with OEM spec tires in all driving conditions. Since I had run a staggered winter setup on my previous MB and currently have a staggered winter setup on my Porsche, I was comfortable following their recommendation.
post #20 of 49
Interesting. The E class owners manual suggests a non staggered winter setup for the AMG. Does yours suggest otherwise?
post #21 of 49
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Originally Posted by poorsod View Post

Interesting. The E class owners manual suggests a non staggered winter setup for the AMG. Does yours suggest otherwise?
IDK, I went directly to the MB techs and didn't check the manual.
post #22 of 49
Snow covered streets this morning so I left the SUV and AWD car in the garage and tested my new tires on the AMG. Success. icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif

I'm ready for my holiday travels over the river and through the woods northward. smile.gif
post #23 of 49
lol! I love how you took the car least suited (technically, due to the RWD) to drive in the snow instead icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
post #24 of 49
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

lol! I love how you took the car least suited (technically, due to the RWD) to drive in the snow instead icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
I love thrills. laugh.gif

More seriously, it's what I want to drive for my forthcoming holiday travels which will take me towards your neck of the woods up north. Knowing that it'll handle possible snowy conditions through the Pennsylvania mountains makes me happy.
post #25 of 49
Considering you have other options sitting in your garage, I'd think twice. While I'd also prefer to take the car thats more fun to drive, I wouldnt, and you wont feel that way anymore in a ditch.
post #26 of 49
My impression is that winter tires are more important for traction than the type of drive. Eg RWD with winter tires handle better than AWD with all seasons.
post #27 of 49
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Considering you have other options sitting in your garage, I'd think twice. While I'd also prefer to take the car thats more fun to drive, I wouldnt, and you wont feel that way anymore in a ditch.

Says the guy telling us about using his sedan with high perf tires on unplowed roads. laugh.gif
post #28 of 49
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Originally Posted by idfnl View Post

Value? I don't know. Wait until you have a few services under your belt. Japanese cars are a fraction of the price from a maintenance perspective. In addition, most German cars use more fuel.
Just to say you had a lower purchase price doesn't tell a complete story.
I've driven German cars for the last 15 years. I feel I sacrifice some value for the quality of the ride. I don't drive a Merc, my current car is an Audi, they are pretty comparable cost of ownerships. 4 brakes for me is a $1500 bill. An Odyssey would probably cost $400. Talking to other owners I know, its generally understood you don't go this route to be frugal. Even a Jetta would cost more to maintain than an Odyssey.

Four brakes for $1500?? My race car didn't cost that much to repair the brakes. My fiance drives a mercedes, I drive an Acura. I'm routinely shocked at how often her car costs an obnoxious amount of money for relatively small fixes. Both low mileage cars.
post #29 of 49
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Originally Posted by SkinnyGoomba View Post

Four brakes for $1500?? My race car didn't cost that much to repair the brakes.

That sounds about right. I've not had to replace brakes on an MB yet (thank god) but my Rover was 2k.
post #30 of 49
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

That sounds about right. I've not had to replace brakes on an MB yet (thank god) but my Rover was 2k.

Good googly moogly. Do they replace the rotors, calipers, and master cylinder for that?

Actually, for a time my wife was hell bent on a Rover, and I'm usually pretty accommodating but when I heard their V8 engines tend to have problems around 70k miles, I put the brakes on that.
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