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post #31 of 56
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I have trouble with the whole "those darn millennials" thing. I am constantly meeting really impressive young people who have started their own businesses and non-profits, and none of them seem especially entitled. As thomas already pointed out, it really comes down to the parenting, and there are bad parents in every generation.


Perhaps with the circles you move in, you would only meet certain types of Millennials? There are a lot of good ones out there, and we have a lot of good traits. We're the most tech savvy, we're the most global, and we're the most open generation the US has ever produced. Combine that with motivation and discipline, you have some people who will really contribute to society in a variety of ways (as some are already).

 

It just seems so many others are willing to impute the responsibility of failures on everything but themselves. As Thomas says, it's mostly about the parents, directly and indirectly (the way in which Baby Boomer parents have influenced the school system...some places don't even give out F's any more). I wonder what sort of people Gen X will produce. And come 2030, we'll see what kind of parents we make.

 

But regardless of the cause, Millennials like the one the OP is having to deal with need to look at their approach to work and life, accept that it's not the best one, and change it. It might be her parents' fault she is the way she is, but it's now her responsibility to change it.

 

Pulling this thread off topic, but I would love to hear Holdfast's take on this.

post #32 of 56
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Originally Posted by imatlas View Post

I have trouble with the whole "those darn millennials" thing. I am constantly meeting really impressive young people who have started their own businesses and non-profits, and none of them seem especially entitled. As thomas already pointed out, it really comes down to the parenting, and there are bad parents in every generation.

Yeah, you're mom

I'm rubber and your glue.
post #33 of 56
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All issues and complaints are now being referred to her to deal with. One would presume she would show some compassion since she is largely to blame-- nope. She then tells people she has pre-existing plans for Friday and as such she will not be coming in. Finally, she has the chutzpah to then tell everyone how she intends to use her remaining sick days and vacation days for the remainder of the year.
REALLY?

bitch goin' black friday shoppin'!
post #34 of 56
I'm working this weekend. Had to cancel vacation plans. But it's due to an actual crisis, so I'm not complaining.
post #35 of 56
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bitch goin' black friday shoppin'!

Millenials don't actually go to stores to shop, that is for the old people. Millenials use the powers of the internetz!
post #36 of 56
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Millenials don't actually go to stores to shop, that is for the old people. Millenials use the powers of the internetz!

Cyber Monday?
post #37 of 56
Millenial here. Gainfully employed since age 14. This is fucking inexcusable behavior.

Fire. That. Bitch.

I can't believe that she expects to come back from her "vacation" to be greeted with anything less than slashed tires.
post #38 of 56
So, we never heard the aftermath...

Did the workers show up? Did she? What happened Monday and on?
post #39 of 56
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

So, we never heard the aftermath...
Did the workers show up? Did she? What happened Monday and on?


Inquiring minds want to know.

post #40 of 56

Sounds like an episode of Suits. lurker[1].gif
 

post #41 of 56
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Originally Posted by imatlas View Post

I have trouble with the whole "those darn millennials" thing. I am constantly meeting really impressive young people who have started their own businesses and non-profits, and none of them seem especially entitled. As thomas already pointed out, it really comes down to the parenting, and there are bad parents in every generation.

The top X% of millennials are a very well educated, enterprising, and promising bunch. The problem is the greater mass of lazy, vapid consumers who entertain delusions of usefulness and cultivation.

What I will say is that millenials maintain a skepticism regarding modern work culture. Many of us have seen relatives put in 60+ hours per week in white collar industries at the expense of any semblance of a work-life balance, then have their careers ruined by a recession (which can occur with alarming rapidity and frequency). What comes of this skepticism (if anything) remains to be seen.

Your director is another footnote in the shameful history of patronage hiring. I wonder how many better qualified recent grads will be unemployed this Christmas...
post #42 of 56
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Inquiring minds want to know.

Many people did not show due to family commitments or were just too lazy to come in. Given the late notice, no enforcement actions were really taken, except against her. Ironically, she became ill (or just couldn't get her work done for finals) and was "sick." Turns out the day she blew off for x-giving, became one day unpaid due to her "sick days" and she is going to have to take other unpaid days due to "prior engagements." She doesn't understand why people are not happy with the extra unpaid days and why simply going unpaid doesn't make the absences ok...

More to come I am sure.....
post #43 of 56
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Originally Posted by Amelorn View Post

The top X% of millennials are a very well educated, enterprising, and promising bunch. The problem is the greater mass of lazy, vapid consumers who entertain delusions of usefulness and cultivation.
What I will say is that millenials maintain a skepticism regarding modern work culture. Many of us have seen relatives put in 60+ hours per week in white collar industries at the expense of any semblance of a work-life balance, then have their careers ruined by a recession (which can occur with alarming rapidity and frequency). What comes of this skepticism (if anything) remains to be seen.
Your director is another footnote in the shameful history of patronage hiring. I wonder how many better qualified recent grads will be unemployed this Christmas...

As per the bolded portion, my qualm is that many want the benefits of working hard but by hardly working. You don't want to put in 70 hours this week-- that is ok. You don't want to ever work late on a Friday or on the weekend; unacceptable but can understand the position. You just don't want to move up in the ranks... that is ok. Just don't expect to get compensated in the same manner I do or have the respect I get from colleagues and clients --- ever. But when you whine about how important you are and that your salary should reflect your importance here, my first reaction is to send you to the unemployment line.
post #44 of 56
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As per the bolded portion, my qualm is that many want the benefits of working hard but by hardly working. You don't want to put in 70 hours this week-- that is ok. You don't want to ever work late on a Friday or on the weekend; unacceptable but can understand the position. You just don't want to move up in the ranks... that is ok. Just don't expect to get compensated in the same manner I do or have the respect I get from colleagues and clients --- ever. But when you whine about how important you are and that your salary should reflect your importance here, my first reaction is to send you to the unemployment line.

To be fair, upward mobility is a lot harder nowadays - people are hanging onto their senior positions for longer, companies lay off at the drop of the hat. There is no loyalty either way, and salaries haven't really risen to reflect the uncertainty. If I was a millennial, I would be rightfully skeptical of putting in that time when the chance for advancement and reward is just so much lower.
post #45 of 56
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Originally Posted by akatsuki View Post

To be fair, upward mobility is a lot harder nowadays - people are hanging onto their senior positions for longer, companies lay off at the drop of the hat. There is no loyalty either way, and salaries haven't really risen to reflect the uncertainty. If I was a millennial, I would be rightfully skeptical of putting in that time when the chance for advancement and reward is just so much lower.

I agree with this to some extent, however, I don't think its an entirely accurate. My point of contention is that there is value is learning to work hard and producing quality output. There is no value, or even negative value in slovenly behavior. Healthy skepticism is ok, but once it turns you into deadweight you become expendable.
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