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post #46 of 88
2/2/09 at 1:33pm
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Originally Posted by Pablo-T View Post

Pablo-T, it's eerie how identical the fades you developed on these jeans. Are they all LVC? I thought the denim varies from season to season?


In any case, great work.
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post #47 of 88
2/2/09 at 2:02pm
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Pablo-T, it's eerie how identical the fades you developed on these jeans. Are they all LVC? I
Thanks, glad you like them, these were nearly all the early Lee Euro Rider reissues, with fabric from Kaihara and Nisshinbo. Great jeans, which all cost around £55. Supposedly the first few pairs were Sanforized, the next few weren't, but it made little difference to shrinkage. Like LVC, the Lee repros, both these and the Edwin-made ines, are all over the place in terms of size and shrinking. It is strange how similar they all look... I did wear them all the same, with no washing for the first six months. they are all l/h denim which seems to give a particular vintage look, and they all retain their indigo. That said, I had one pair I washed once too often & was really looking bland... so I used them as work jeans and scrubbed the floor, etc, in them for a couple of years. When my g/f washed them by accident a couple months ago (normally cause for a serious row) they turned out pretty nice. I sold them to the wonderful Beatle over on SuFu. I've sold most of these but still ahve about 3 pairs left, one raw and unwashed, the other couple on the way...
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post #48 of 88
2/2/09 at 7:12pm
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yeah, nice way of trying to play it off...you're too cool for school, laughing at us for wasting our time, while spending plenty of time talking about this. Oh what, you're a professional myth debunker?
HAHAHA,
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post #49 of 88
2/2/09 at 7:46pm
he seriously picked the wrong guy to argue denim with.

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HAHAHA, Paul has written a book on denim what have you done?
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post #50 of 88
2/2/09 at 8:24pm
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Let me be clear, I posted this thread because I SOUGHT ADVICE.

I don't give a shit if he wrote a book. Paris Hilton wrote a book. I haven't read his book, but what makes him an authority? Does he have a background in chemistry or is he very experienced in the textile industry? That would help. If not, then I don't really give a shit, especially considering his attitude.

As far as his attack on salt and vinegar, it's a straw man argument. i never claimed salt and vinegar set the dye. As far as I'm concerned, I considered salt and vinegar as mild cleansers to take out shit added to the denim - things like starch, paraffin, and polyvinyl alcohol.

Sure you can blast that shit away with detergent, but that would bleed a lot of the indigo dye away.

And maybe salt and vinegar is used as gentle maintenance of jeans, to keep them fresh, antibacterial without bleeding the dye.

Pablo isn't considering the indirect effect of salt and vinegar on the dye - he keeps claiming they don't react much with it - but maybe that's the point. Vinegar and salt gently cleanse the jeans without stripping the indigo.

Hey I appreciate any advice, that was the point of this thread. But Pablo's is a straw man argument. And those last jeans are indeed pretty cool. I like the contrast. But again, all his jeans are showing some premature wear-and-tear, and the dreaded holes are forming in the crotch. Like I said before, all the power to him if he likes them like that.

But personally, in public I like to rock out without my cock out, so I'll continue to prioritize a balance between high contrast and durability.
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post #51 of 88
2/3/09 at 1:38am
I'm a real stickler for keeping my place clean. I have a nice white tub and want to keep it looking nice. Can I expect to keep it that way if I warm or hot soak my 501's for 2 to 3 hours? Or, will it leave some serious stains that require a lot of time and muscle to get rid of? Who's got some experience here?
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post #52 of 88
2/3/09 at 8:24am
they dont really leave any stains at all...but cracks and chips in the tub tend to trap indigo
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post #53 of 88
2/4/09 at 5:44pm
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I'm a real stickler for keeping my place clean. I have a nice white tub and want to keep it looking nice. Can I expect to keep it that way if I warm or hot soak my 501's for 2 to 3 hours? Or, will it leave some serious stains that require a lot of time and muscle to get rid of? Who's got some experience here?

Use the salt & vinegar to clean your tub
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post #54 of 88
2/4/09 at 7:56pm
pablo i think its funny (not in a bad way) that all of jeans came to look the same. personally i try to do something different with each pair i own.
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post #55 of 88
2/19/09 at 1:12am
Have a few incoming pairs of '47's arriving tomorrow and am planning on soaking them for 2 hours in hot water, hanging them up for a while, then wearing them around the house.

Does this sound like a decent plan of attack to you guys? Anything you would add?
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post #56 of 88
4/20/09 at 1:52am
well the 34x34 "new" models of the 1947s was a bit too large for me even after 2 hot soaks. I just tossed them in the washer and set it to hot. I'll take them out to hand dry after before the spin cycle. Hopefully this gets the last shrinkage out. Will prob send them off to have them tapered by denim doctors too
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post #57 of 88
4/20/09 at 2:17am
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pablo i think its funny (not in a bad way) that all of jeans came to look the same. personally i try to do something different with each pair i own.

Seems reasonable, these were work jeans from a decade ago and at the time they were way cheaper than anything else available and I liked the way they looked raw for business meetings etc.

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well the 34x34 "new" models of the 1947s was a bit too large for me even after 2 hot soaks. I just tossed them in the washer and set it to hot. I'll take them out to hand dry after before the spin cycle. Hopefully this gets the last shrinkage out. Will prob send them off to have them tapered by denim doctors too

Good point which probably needs noting on SF. NEw season LVC from s/s 2009 is made in a new factroy, and is made true to size, rather than one inch under. Sizing up two inches from the tag size is now overdoing it; you need to size up by one or buy actual size.

Kt99, can you comment if the shape or anythign else has changed from previous production?


1947 LVC, 2006, after second wash
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post #58 of 88
4/20/09 at 4:16am
I'm about to get some 1947, but I want them to be a little relaxed. I've read that the 1947 can be slim or relaxed depending on how you size. I want a size 34X34-35 if possible. I plan to soak them to get the shrinkage out of the way. How much should I size up to get them relaxed? I have only 5ep LDZ 34/32 to go by, other than that, I wear size 34 on regular 30 dollar relaxed Levis. Based on the tag on the Levis, I was going to order a size 36x38.
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post #59 of 88
4/20/09 at 11:56am
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Originally Posted by Pablo-T View Post
Seems reasonable, these were work jeans from a decade ago and at the time they were way cheaper than anything else available and I liked the way they looked raw for business meetings etc.



Good point which probably needs noting on SF. NEw season LVC from s/s 2009 is made in a new factroy, and is made true to size, rather than one inch under. Sizing up two inches from the tag size is now overdoing it; you need to size up by one or buy actual size.

Kt99, can you comment if the shape or anythign else has changed from previous production?


1947 LVC, 2006, after second wash



Pablo, I'm about to order a pair of LVC 47s probably from Cultizm which I assume has the latest production of the line. What's the standard inseam shrinkage for these jeans?
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post #60 of 88
5/3/09 at 4:40pm
Pablo, my 34x34 1947s are indeed 2009 models from the new factory as they have the 4170 on the back of the top button.

after two 1 hr hotsoaks they only went down to a 33x32. Now after a hot wash and another hr hotsoak they measure 32x31.
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