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post #76 of 125
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Sorry, I don't speak acronym or geekspeak.

"You Have Been Trolled. You Have Lost. Have A Nice Day"
post #77 of 125
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Originally Posted by LSeca View Post
Wrong. I am a blonde hair, blue eyed American...that was all that was needed for sex most of the time there. Well, having money helped alot too.

Not wrong. You don't understand the history of Turkey's relationship with Christendom. Circumcision was a big deal to them back in the day because their Christian subjects were uncircumcised and it was forbidden for a Muslim Turkish woman to sleep with a Christian subject. The fact that they won't sleep with an uncircumcised man has much less to do with how the penis looks or feels than it does with cultural remnants from Ottoman times.

I am not saying that they wouldn't sleep with a blond haired, blue eyed American (especially one with money), I am saying that they wouldn't sleep with an uncircumcised man because they relate uncircumcised men to subjugated Christians during Ottoman times.

Edit: For what it's worth, I don't recall ever taking a shower with my dad either.
post #78 of 125
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Not wrong. You don't understand the history of Turkey's relationship with Christendom. Circumcision was a big deal to them back in the day because their Christian subjects were uncircumcised and it was forbidden for a Muslim Turkish woman to sleep with a Christian subject. The fact that they won't sleep with an uncircumcised man has much less to do with how the penis looks or feels than it does with cultural remnants from Ottoman times.

I am not saying that they wouldn't sleep with a blond haired, blue eyed American (especially one with money), I am saying that they wouldn't sleep with an uncircumcised man because they relate uncircumcised men to subjugated Christians during Ottoman times.

Edit: For what it's worth, I don't recall ever taking a shower with my dad either.

+1. I've never showered with odoreater's dad either (afaicr).
post #79 of 125
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Not wrong. You don't understand the history of Turkey's relationship with Christendom. Circumcision was a big deal to them back in the day because their Christian subjects were uncircumcised and it was forbidden for a Muslim Turkish woman to sleep with a Christian subject. The fact that they won't sleep with an uncircumcised man has much less to do with how the penis looks or feels than it does with cultural remnants from Ottoman times.

I am not saying that they wouldn't sleep with a blond haired, blue eyed American (especially one with money), I am saying that they wouldn't sleep with an uncircumcised man because they relate uncircumcised men to subjugated Christians during Ottoman times.

Edit: For what it's worth, I don't recall ever taking a shower with my dad either.

FWIW: my girlfriend's family is straight-off-the-boat turkish, and she's never raised any objections about my blonde hair, pennilessness, or uncut penis.
post #80 of 125
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
Not wrong. You don't understand the history of Turkey's relationship with Christendom.

No, pretty sure as I am right as far as adressing your original statement. You stated it had something to do with being Christian, of which I consider myself Christian. The women had no issues with it. However, they did have issues with uncut American or Turkish men, Christian or not.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I don't ever recall showeringwith your father either.
post #81 of 125
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Originally Posted by LSeca View Post
No, pretty sure as I am right as far as adressing your original statement. You stated it had something to do with being Christian, of which I consider myself Christian. The women had no issues with it. However, they did have issues with uncut American or Turkish men, Christian or not.

EDIT: For what it's worth, I don't ever recall showeringwith your father either.

I think we're saying two totally different things. My point is only that many Muslim Turks associate an uncircumcised penis with the evil infidel. Although opposition to the evil infidel may have subsided somewhat, the distaste (hehe) for uncircumcised penis remains.
post #82 of 125
TCK: Glad to see more references to that great album. Another great one that is overlooked and undervalued and came from about the same time is John Hiatt's Bring the Family. I love the whimsical Just like Your Dad Did:

"Well the day was long now, suppers on
The thrill is gone
But somethings taking place
Yeah the food is cold and your wife feels old
But all hands fold
As the two year old says grace
She says help the starving children to get well
But let my brother's hamster burn in hell
You love your wife and kids
Just like your dad did"
post #83 of 125
LK wrote: I'm sure (some) Euopean women would not have a problem like that.

What I'd also like to add is that such a statement is not exactly a ringing endorsement for "uncircumcision."
post #84 of 125
An uncircumcised penis seems much less appetizing.

Pre-Cut. Pre-Made. Ready to Eat.
post #85 of 125
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Originally Posted by odoreater View Post
I think we're saying two totally different things. My point is only that many Muslim Turks associate an uncircumcised penis with the evil infidel. Although opposition to the evil infidel may have subsided somewhat, the distaste (hehe) for uncircumcised penis remains.

Now I understand what you are saying, and you have a good point. I do think the evil infidel idea has subsided, especially in Istanbul and Izmir, as the larger cities are becoming more and more influenced by western culture.
post #86 of 125
I didn't get the snip; and neither will any sons i may have.
post #87 of 125
I've showered with Odereater's dad, nice man, but he does hog the hot water.



actually, I can't remember ever seeing my dad naked, either
post #88 of 125
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Originally Posted by LSeca View Post
Good point.

Another good reason, if you are heterosexual, is that women prefer the circumcision. I am a proud helmet wearer.

Where have you read that? I was born in Chile and it just isn't practiced there.
post #89 of 125
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Originally Posted by cldpsu View Post
Where have you read that? I was born in Chile and it just isn't practiced there.

I googled and found hundreds of articles and medical surveys showing women prefer the circumcison by a large margin (90%). I can't speak for any countries other than the US.


Here is one example, again there is countless others available. Alot of good info supporting the importance of the helmet.

http://www.medicirc.org/meditopics/p...nfo_women.html
post #90 of 125
I get the feeling most condoms are designed with circumsized guys in mind. Latex doesn't feel good against the glans if it's not desensitized.
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