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post #871 of 2848
The conquistadors were hard men who were highly skilled in close quarters fighting. They did have guns, but at the time most of the fighting still happened with hand weapons -- and their armor and tactics were designed to counter hand weapons. The conquistadors were much, much better at close quarters fighting than the natives. We don't know what stormtrooper armor is supposed to protect against, but it ain't knives. Modern body armor would be equally ineffective.

The conquistadors also rarely allowed themselves to be caught in the open (and when they did it, it didn't end well for them). And they usually had the help of thousands or tens of thousands of local allies.

My biggest complaint with the movie was that there doesn't seem to be any reason to expect that the imperials would be caught unaware. They seem to be scouting very heavily, then, bam. Everybody line up to embarrass the rebels. And the "legion" seems to only have a few hundred men.
post #872 of 2848
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I've said it several times before, but Ewoks never bothered me as much as it seems a lot of people. Yes they were the first big sign of Lucas' decent into madness yet I didn't find them really that offensive. In terms of them taking out the Stormtroppers I always figured that there was supposed to be a lot more of them then what was shown on screen and the bad guys knew they would be overwhelmed.

Another StarWars fun fact: Originally it was supposed to be the planet of Wookies. It was changed for budget reasons or something. Midgets work cheap.
post #873 of 2848
It wasn't budget reasons, it was because Lucas let go of Gary Kurtz, the only man with original ideas for the series, and went about creating the garbage he felt would most resonate with kids who would buy toys.
post #874 of 2848
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Kids wouldn't buy a shit ton of new Wookie toys? Chewie was always one of the favorite characters of the series and I can't imagine a village worth of his kind wouldn't be ripe for being made into plastic figures to unload on the masses.
post #875 of 2848
He was taking about Lucas's intent and expectations. As crazy as this sounds, there are some people who question his judgment.
post #876 of 2848
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I've got no problem with questing his judgement when appropriate. I just don't see how Ewoks would sell better to children then Wookies, but yes I'm open to the idea that Lucas might have thought otherwise at the time.
post #877 of 2848
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Kids wouldn't buy a shit ton of new Wookie toys? Chewie was always one of the favorite characters of the series and I can't imagine a village worth of his kind wouldn't be ripe for being made into plastic figures to unload on the masses.


Yeah, you're right. The Star Wars Holiday Special moved a lot of Mallah and Itchy and Lumpy toys.
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post #879 of 2848
from the interview you linked JrMouse

"So I tried to not forget the mistakes I’d made, but I also tried to focus on things that I find inspiring about cinema. I asked questions like “How do we make this movie delightful?” That was really the only requirement Larry and I imposed on each other: The movie needed to be delightful. It was not about explaining everything away, not about introducing a certain number of toys for a corporation, not about trying to appease anyone. This has only ever been about what gets us excited."

Gee I wonder which director he had in mind saying this shog[1].gif

As you probably know Lucas isn't as much loved by SW fans as some would expect because he would go for money instead of making a good film (vide ep1 and ep6). Perhaps his vision of SW changed after ep5 but it seems inconsequence making dark ep5 and then going full teddy bear ep6. Many fans felt it was money grab and that Lucas doesn't care anymore and I tend to think that's more likely option.

and yeah ewoks sell better to kids than wookies because just like ewoks kids are retarded - I know because my lil brother watched ep6 and loved ewoks foo.gif
post #880 of 2848
I sure hope JJ Abrams leaves his craziness out of the movie. Make it pure. I don't want to see a scene where a rebel says "My hands are up, don't shoot."

I've seen trailers with Mark Hamill, maybe a year ago. What's up with the Where's Mark thing? A gimmick?
post #881 of 2848
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Originally Posted by Lighthouse View Post

I sure hope JJ Abrams leaves his craziness out of the movie. Make it pure. I don't want to see a scene where a rebel says "My hands are up, don't shoot."

As long as all the Stormtroopers get home safely at the end of the Rebellion. / @Piobaire

A conversation this morning reminded me of this, which I still consider one of the best pieces of Star Wars-themed marketing ever:

Edited by lawyerdad - 11/13/15 at 10:45am
post #882 of 2848
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EW has an interview with JJ with some interesting information on the Starkiller Base and General Hux.

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/11/13/star-wars-starkiller-base-general-hux?hootPostID=2e25dce99e219a1c5784bb8680d772d0

I'd go read the whole article, but I found these quotes about the Starkiller base to be most interesting.
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“It is very much — and it’s acknowledged as such in the movie — apparently another Death Star,” Abrams says. “But what it’s capable of, how it works, and what the threat is, is far greater than what the Death Star could have done. Starkiller Base is another step forward, technologically speaking, in terms of power.”

Abrams says it’s only logical that this new generation of Imperial wannabes would consider the failure of their idols to be a lack of ambition. If they’re going to succeed where Darth Vader and the Emperor failed, they’re going to have to demonstrate that they are even more menacing and destructive.

The article later goes on about the power of Starkiller Base:
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Stars that don’t end their lifecycles in supernovas can become a red giant, consuming everything in their orbit in a colossal, crimson expansion of energy before collapsing again into a white dwarf. Starkiller Base may not be only a planet-killer, it may be able to trigger such an event and become a destroyer of solar systems.
post #883 of 2848
Hate to say I told ya so, but, you know...
post #884 of 2848
JJ ripped off the SunCrusher.
post #885 of 2848
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Hate to say I told ya so, but, you know...

I interpreted it more along the lines of it being a "deathstar" but wildly different. It won't just be another metal moon going pew pew towards a planet.
Edited by Jr Mouse - 11/13/15 at 5:02pm
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