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post #2611 of 2848
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Dude fell into a giant vajaja.

could be a lot worse

post #2612 of 2848
such a cool character, such a lame death
they really dropped the ball on that one
post #2613 of 2848
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EDIT: Speaking of which, if Disney is really trying to push this SJW/Feminist agenda then how come we have yet to see a single MARVEL film with a female as the main character and hero? It's been how many years?

careful what you wish for

http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/15/5901621/marvels-thor-is-now-a-woman

well in Thor movie Heimdall was black, not that i give a shit about some second rate franchise or the comic as I havent read it, but im pretty sure there were no africans among nordic deities. I don't like these 'forced' racial/gender qoutas, it's lame and distracting. Same when I watch Narcos I prefer his(pablo's) henchmen to be spics not ethanically and gender diverse. So disney 1. is lame in not making new characters and reusing existing ideas 2. pushes an agenda chanigng already establised characters. NOt that it is a super big deal or matter of life and death, but it's somewhat annoying.
Edited by wojt - 5/13/16 at 6:44am
post #2614 of 2848
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The female Thor in the comics is Jane Foster who is played by Natalie Portman in the films. I could be wrong, but I doubt they have plans to launch a new franchise with Portman as Thor. My gut is that the actress would not want to go in that direction and her contract with the studio was signed before female Thor ever made an appearance in the comics. Having said that, I could easily see them work in an extended scene into one of the Avengers movies where she temporally uses the hammer to become Thor and save the day in a fight. Would be great fan service.
post #2615 of 2848
What's wrong with a black Heimdal or female Thor again?
post #2616 of 2848
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What's wrong with a black Heimdal or female Thor again?

the same thing as with whiteslashasian Blade, or Finn being played by white dood in episode8
post #2617 of 2848
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the same thing as with whiteslashasian Blade, or Finn being played by white dood in episode8


You do realize that the Female Thor is a different character then the male one, right? No gender swapping happened there. They had a long standing female character of the Marvel universe, Jane Foster, take up the mantle of Thor. The original Thor is still around and doing other stuff these days.

People like you need to take a step back and look at the big picture instead of getting your panties in a bunch over a perceived onslaught of SJW/Feminism invading fictional stories. These are comic book universes that have been around for decades. Occasionally a hero gets swapped out for a new version of them. There have been many many Green Lanterns, Spider-Men, Bat Men, Captain Americas, Super Men, etc...

The question I want to ask is why do we only see this type of outrage when the creative teams choose different genders or races then the original versions? Where was the concern when Bucky became Cap? No one got worked up about that like can be seen on the internet about Falcon doing the same. The only difference there is race.

BTW, this frog has also been Thor.



#Froglivesmatter
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What's wrong with a black Heimdal or female Thor again?


Heimdal is such a minor character in a book that's never been Marvel's highest selling title that I can't imagine anyone would care.
post #2619 of 2848
So it's percieved now, you yourself don't really see any evidence for it happening? Like I said before it's not terribly important matter, i said it was lame. So if anyone gets his panties in the bunch etc and is searching for some frogthor then it's you.
post #2620 of 2848
On a somewhat different note, though raised by the recent discussion on shifts in the comic print universe --
Are there any good articles or analysis on the relative importance of the current comic book runs on the comic universe? What I am thinking is that the spate of CBMs has been building on a huge fan base and literature, developed years ago when kids and young adults read comic books and then got excited about seeing those stories brought to the screen. How true the movies were (or weren't) to the books mattered. But now it seems like the movies are more important if only because that is where the fan base is. Fewer people read the books and, even for those that do, the books are not the source of the stories, but rather only one of the sources. So to put in the context of the above discussion, "who cares what they do to Thor in the comics, now. It is the movies that matter and they should reflect 70s/80s/90s canon and then run from there." Those are just my thoughts and have little data or analysis to underpin them, so I am wondering if anyone is aware of someone who has done a better job looking at and thinking about the issue.
post #2621 of 2848

Argument 1 - it's against precedent to have girl or minority as superhero/lead character

 

(now that argument 1 has been proven wrong)

 

Argument 2 - its lame/no one would believe it

post #2622 of 2848
you are very good at refuting arguements nobody makes
post #2623 of 2848
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Unfortunately there has been little evidence that these movies are driving increased sales for the comics. There has been a lot of debate on this and why it is over the years. I'd say it really boils down to kids not being the target market for comics like they used to be. The stories have grown up over the years with the audiences. Walk into any comic store or convention and you will see far more adults then children. Sales have either been in a decline or flat-line for some time with an occasional bump when the media catches on to a big event.

Do the movies matter more? From a revenue and merchandising standpoint, certainly. The comics will always be important as they are the genesis for the characters and much of the creativity happens with them, but over time one could see the movies having an influence on them more and more.
post #2624 of 2848
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Unfortunately there has been little evidence that these movies are driving increased sales for the comics. There has been a lot of debate on this and why it is over the years. I'd say it really boils down to kids not being the target market for comics like they used to be. The stories have grown up over the years with the audiences. Walk into any comic store or convention and you will see far more adults then children. Sales have either been in a decline or flat-line for some time with an occasional bump when the media catches on to a big event.

Do the movies matter more? From a revenue and merchandising standpoint, certainly. The comics will always be important as they are the genesis for the characters and much of the creativity happens with them, but over time one could see the movies having an influence on them more and more.

 

Spot on analysis.  It is not dissimilar to video games.  Video games are marketing and made primarily for adults (though they are growing and kids buy lots of them).  It used to be we get a lot of movie based video games, but now we're seeing big budget movies based on video games (WoW, Assassin's Creed, etc).

post #2625 of 2848
games went mainstream good observation, i think a good indication of that is how easy they are now, If someone remembers playing BG1, Gothic, Aliens vs Predator or micromanagment headaches of C&C1 he knows what im talking about wink.gif
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