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post #2386 of 2848
The patriarchy is strong in this thread.

Leia in the slave bikini was my childhood crush (aka boner factory).
post #2387 of 2848
Fighter pilots being a famously diverse lot.
post #2388 of 2848
Too diverse for some around here...
Edited by venividivicibj - 5/3/16 at 2:40pm
post #2389 of 2848
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Fighter pilots being a famously diverse lot.

Yes, I understand one reason kamikaze pilots were effective in World War II was that U.S. personnel were reluctant to shoot down other white people.
post #2390 of 2848
The Kamikaze pilots were a model of diversity. Good counter example. I stand corrected.
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The Kamikaze pilots were a model of diversity. Good counter example. I stand corrected.

Corrected and incapable of basic logic, you mean. The denominator in question was "fighter pilots", not the fighter pilots of a specific country.
post #2392 of 2848
Or of a specific planet, I guess. You sure got me there.
post #2393 of 2848
Return of the Jedi had a reasonably diverse group of pilots.

I can't be bothered to remember what the pilots in the prequels were like.
post #2394 of 2848
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Or of a specific planet, I guess. You sure got me there.
Indeed.
Sarcasm only works when you have a cogent point.
I have no doubt, however, that in the fantasy universes you create everyone (or at least everyone on the "good" side) is white, and the occasional non-white pilot would be jarring anomaly.
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Return of the Jedi had a reasonably diverse group of pilots.

I can't be bothered to remember what the pilots in the prequels were like.

Pretty sure there was a fat one, at least.
post #2395 of 2848
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Sarcasm only works when you have a cogent point.

"Do as I say, not as I do," eh?
post #2396 of 2848
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"Do as I say, not as I do," eh?

No, you've failed again.
post #2397 of 2848
I guess I'm not getting what's so objectionable about the casting in the new Star Wars movies.
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They need a strong male lead to make the movie about lightsabres, death stars, wookies, and other alien beings more realistic.

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I guess I'm not getting what's so objectionable about the casting in the new Star Wars movies.

There are two complaints about the "diversity" in the new Star Wars movies. The principle one is that it's just poorly executed -- forced, obvious, and jarring. Distracting, but also diminshing of the movie. Not only because you would like to think the resources that went into the diversity checklists could have been used to make a better movie, but also because it gets them a pass with the critics. And it works, as the Force Awakens is generally regarded as a good movie despite being terrible.

And, going to lawyerdad's jab about me making my own sci fi universe, it's embracing the awful "United Nations in Space" reconning from the prequels. The rebels and the empire are supposed to be embroiled in a civil war. Yes, they talk about the "Republic" and all that, but the empire/republic dichotomy is almost certainly supposed to be a false one--like the Romans, whose republic was every bit an empire before it had emperors. Look at Leia -- she's a princess, she's openly contemptuous of robots and aliens. Luke's father was a knight, etc. The rest of the rebels are organized and disciplined and wealthy. They're privileged people fighting against people who look like them for more privileges, like 99% of rebels throughout history. It's a more interesting and real world.

ETA: and just think about the potential for social justice warrior stories. Robot lives matter!
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

There are two complaints about the "diversity" in the new Star Wars movies. The principle one is that it's just poorly executed -- forced, obvious, and jarring. Distracting, but also diminshing of the movie. Not only because you would like to think the resources that went into the diversity checklists could have been used to make a better movie, but also because it gets them a pass with the critics. And it works, as the Force Awakens is generally regarded as a good movie despite being terrible.

Was there a particular casting decision that you found poorly executed, or was it more in the aggregate? I don't recall seeing any characters where I thought the actor was a particularly poor choice.
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