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Here's some context you didn't quote:
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She explained that it was part of a bigger plan for more Star Wars movies and feeding the massive consumer product pipeline, pointing out that there were “tens of millions” of female Star Wars fans.

“Star Wars has always been one of those franchises that absolutely crossed gender – it covered all demographics,” Filippatos said. “But the product line, historically, has been very very boy focused and was very much geared towards boys despite the fact that these were characters that resonated very strongly with all parts of the population.”

She said that Disney focused on making the product line more reflective of the interest for women as well as men.


Sounds to me like the agenda here is to appeal to more women and foster an overall wider fan base moving forward. Leading to the franchise being more profitable on the whole.
post #2327 of 2848
This is not fostering a larger fanbase. Boys will not be fans of these movies like they were past Star Wars movies.

This is all being shoehorned in at the expense of boys. There is no one in The Force Awakens that a boy would look up to like any of the characters in the original trilogy. Sensitive vulnerable male villain, Han gets talked down to on his own ship, Finn was written as a likable idiot ect. No boys who watched this movie will grow up idolizing any male character like boys did when they watched the original trilogy. I saw Tangled and it's easily the worst example of this. Absolutely every single male character in the movie is portrayed as extremely stupid and violent.

That's why everyone loved T8-8R so much. It's not like there was any other badass male in that movie.
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Anyone know what the movie plan is?  I know its to do a movie a year in the star wars universe, but will it be - 

 

one movie relevant to our current cast/rae/finn etc

a short offshoot(like rogue one)

back to rae/finn

then another offshoot, etc?

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Originally Posted by Reggs View Post

This is not fostering a larger fanbase. Boys will not be fans of these movies like they were past Star Wars movies.

This is all being shoehorned in at the expense of boys. There is no one in The Force Awakens that a boy would look up to like any of the characters in the original trilogy. Sensitive vulnerable male villain, Han gets talked down to on his own ship, Finn was written as a likable idiot ect. No boys who watched this movie will grow up idolizing any male character like boys did when they watched the original trilogy. I saw Tangled and it's easily the worst example of this. Absolutely every single male character in the movie is portrayed as extremely stupid and violent.

That's why everyone loved T8-8R so much. It's not like there was any other badass male in that movie.

I agree. I love how they have to describe female leads as "strong." It's like a "well spoken" black guy.

You also see this in the advertising industry where, excepting The Most Interesting Man in the World, every guy is a bumbling beta that the wife has to put up with. Sad to see Star Wars take this path too.
post #2331 of 2848
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Originally Posted by Reggs View Post

This is not fostering a larger fanbase. Boys will not be fans of these movies like they were past Star Wars movies.

This is all being shoehorned in at the expense of boys. There is no one in The Force Awakens that a boy would look up to like any of the characters in the original trilogy. Sensitive vulnerable male villain, Han gets talked down to on his own ship, Finn was written as a likable idiot ect. No boys who watched this movie will grow up idolizing any male character like boys did when they watched the original trilogy. I saw Tangled and it's easily the worst example of this. Absolutely every single male character in the movie is portrayed as extremely stupid and violent.

That's why everyone loved T8-8R so much. It's not like there was any other badass male in that movie.



Well you certainly have the attitude of a boy on this topic.
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Well you certainly have the attitude of a boy on this topic.

Well, the attitude of boys was kind of the whole point of the post. I don't find anything intrinsically wrong with the attitude of boys or masculinity in general so I'm kind of missing the point of this criticism.
post #2333 of 2848
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Originally Posted by venividivicibj View Post

Anyone know what the movie plan is?  I know its to do a movie a year in the star wars universe, but will it be - 

one movie relevant to our current cast/rae/finn etc
a short offshoot(like rogue one)
back to rae/finn
then another offshoot, etc?

basically:

Rogue One
Episode 8
Han Solo Origin Movie (there you go guys, quit your bitching, we've got a move with a MAN in it)
Episode 9
???

the ??? is where it gets scary.
post #2334 of 2848

Ugh, can we all stop bickering over SJW/feminism in Star Wars, etc?  Episode 8 was okay at best IMO and it had nothing to do with a "strong female lead" and everything to do with the bigger Death Star that was easily defeated.

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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Ugh, can we all stop bickering over SJW/feminism in Star Wars, etc?  Episode 8 was okay at best IMO and it had nothing to do with a "strong female lead" and everything to do with the bigger Death Star that was easily defeated.

No, it had everything to do with the lead. She was a cardboard cutout "strong girl" borrowed from a dozen other recent movies.
post #2336 of 2848
Nah, it was the Death Star.
post #2337 of 2848
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No, it had everything to do with the lead. She was a cardboard cutout "strong girl" borrowed from a dozen other recent movies.

 

Really?  The fact that the movie's bad guys repeated the failed tactics of the bad guys in Episodes 4 and 6 had nothing to do with it?  How despite having a planet sized super weapon they didn't bother to defend it?  How the lead bad guy seemed to be Grand Moff Tarkin who retreated rather than going down with the ship?

I know a lot of people who loved the movie, and they're not SJW/feminist types in any way.  I just don't understand what they saw in the movie.  It was a fairly enjoyable movie, but I would give it a gentleman's B- for the reasons above.

post #2338 of 2848
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Originally Posted by brokencycle View Post

Really?  The fact that the movie's bad guys repeated the failed tactics of the bad guys in Episodes 4 and 6 had nothing to do with it?  How despite having a planet sized super weapon they didn't bother to defend it?  How the lead bad guy seemed to be Grand Moff Tarkin who retreated rather than going down with the ship?


I know a lot of people who loved the movie, and they're not SJW/feminist types in any way.  I just don't understand what they saw in the movie.  It was a fairly enjoyable movie, but I would give it a gentleman's B- for the reasons above.
I didn't say the death star 3.0 had nothing to do with it. Obviously, it was awful. Terrible. Even worse than the girl. But she's still bad.
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post #2340 of 2848
Thread Starter 
Alright guys, I fully realize I have had a part in continuing the SJW/feminism Star Wars bickering but @brokencycle is right. It's derailing the thread. Let's bring it back to topic.
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