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post #1921 of 2848
So much hate on this thread.

Makes you stronger.
post #1922 of 2848
THE FORCE AWAKENS & THE RISE OF IDIOT JOURNALISM. Point-by-point teardown of a lot of the same critiques that have popped up here.
post #1923 of 2848

Nice read, i skimmed most though.

 

 

Does anything think Rey will be in a Slave suit?

post #1924 of 2848
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Does anything think Rey will be in a Slave suit?

 

BB-8 and R2D2? Maybe even C3PO?

 

:p

post #1925 of 2848
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THE FORCE AWAKENS & THE RISE OF IDIOT JOURNALISM. Point-by-point teardown of a lot of the same critiques that have popped up here.

Hah. I love the part were he calls them out for seemingly not even had watched the movie at all. It's a point I've brought up a couple times in this thread after banging my head against the wall at reading numerous complaints for this that were spelled out in the movie if one bothered to even pay the f**** attention.
post #1926 of 2848
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BB-8 and R2D2? Maybe even C3PO?

 

:p

My gosh I meant "anyone", can't be fucked editing it so I'll just leave it be. :D

post #1927 of 2848
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THE FORCE AWAKENS & THE RISE OF IDIOT JOURNALISM. Point-by-point teardown of a lot of the same critiques that have popped up here.

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Hah. I love the part were he calls them out for seemingly not even had watched the movie at all. It's a point I've brought up a couple times in this thread after banging my head against the wall at reading numerous complaints for this that were spelled out in the movie if one bothered to even pay the f**** attention.
While some of his comments were sensible, he too often fell back on "it is a setup for the next movie" or "it will be explained later". That is not an explanation. Rather, it is an acknowledgment that this movie is not a good piece of self-contained storytelling. I know this is now a franchise and we are supposed to buy ticket after ticket, but that does not make for a satisfying experience. As a whole, I liked the movie and most of the things in the Huffington Post article were stupid complaints or didn't bother me. But Rey's sudden superpowers did.
post #1928 of 2848
While he does have a couple of sensible points, refuting this kind of stupid click bait "article" is really picking the low hanging fruit. Yes, that kind of "journalism" is bloody awful, but it's also pretty easily avoided (I hadn't heard about this one and wouldn't have clicked it if I had. And now I was tricked into reading all of it through this piece. Goddammit.).

Anyway, Dopey (and the turk earlier) are right: any short commings in the dramatic narrative can't be hand waved with "it's clarified in the script" or "it's in the novelization" or "it'll be explained in the sequels, just wait" (and I'm not saying that everything has to be explained in this movie, but the things that make the story work do).

But I did like how he wasn't without humor at the start with this:

"... while making Adam Driver’s Kylo Ren one of the most layered and interestingly flawed villains I’ve ever seen."
post #1929 of 2848
Kylo Ren was a great villain. By far the most interesting character. I hope he eventually becomes the Sith master and runs the galaxy.
post #1930 of 2848
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While some of his comments were sensible, he too often fell back on "it is a setup for the next movie" or "it will be explained later". That is not an explanation. Rather, it is an acknowledgment that this movie is not a good piece of self-contained storytelling. I know this is now a franchise and we are supposed to buy ticket after ticket, but that does not make for a satisfying experience. As a whole, I liked the movie and most of the things in the Huffington Post article were stupid complaints or didn't bother me. But Rey's sudden superpowers did.

It's the first of a planned trilogy. Anyone walking into it should have known they were going to leave some things open to be explained in the future. That's how trilogies like this work. You can't provide all the answers in film 1. The only reason ANH felt as self contained as it did (and it did leave a lot open) is because Lucas had no idea it would be a success and he'd get to do more. When he did, we got ESB. A movie that leaves a ton of unanswered plot threads. Even more then TFA.
post #1931 of 2848
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While he does have a couple of sensible points, refuting this kind of stupid click bait "article" is really picking the low hanging fruit. Yes, that kind of "journalism" is bloody awful, but it's also pretty easily avoided (I hadn't heard about this one and wouldn't have clicked it if I had. And now I was tricked into reading all of it through this piece. Goddammit.).

A lot of this "low hanging fruit" from the article that the guy refutes are similar if not the exact same critiques that have been posted over and over in this thread... wink.gif
post #1932 of 2848
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ESB is almost universally considered the best SW film and ends on a cliffhanger. Can you imagine if the internet and its contrarian/hater culture existed back then? "Vader is Luke's father? WTF? They didn't even bother to explain this. Whole film is full of these plot holes!" "How the Hell did Leia access the Force to find Luke?" "Cliffhanger? Seriously? So this whole movie was just to sell tickets for the next film? Why can't we get self contained movies anymore without setting up the next thing?" Seriously you could go on and on here.
post #1933 of 2848
The only complaints I have:

1. FN287 and Rey should not be able to last more than a minute against a Sith in training, even if he is injured.

2. Rey is portrayed as a good guy, yet she has a British accent. Everyone knows the good guys are American. Maybe they'll turn her to the dark side and fix this.

3. I don't think Sidious gets enough credit in these movies. He was a mastermind and truly on team Sith, yet Vader gets all the credit for Sith successes.
post #1934 of 2848
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OMG! You mean I have to sit through two more of these hobbit movies to see them defeat that giant flaming eye and dispose of the ring? ffffuuuu.gif
post #1935 of 2848
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

It's the first of a planned trilogy. Anyone walking into it should have known they were going to leave some things open to be explained in the future. That's how trilogies like this work. You can't provide all the answers in film 1. The only reason ANH felt as self contained as it did (and it did leave a lot open) is because Lucas had no idea it would be a success and he'd get to do more. When he did, we got ESB. A movie that leaves a ton of unanswered plot threads. Even more then TFA.

The only reason? What is this based on? Whatever expectation Lucas did or didn't have at the time, doesn't that film now stand as pretty powerful evidence disproving your thesis? That is, it is entirely possible to create a movie that feels like good relatively self-contained story-telling even if it's a single chapter in a broader narrative?
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