Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

[Harold falcon]



So what is Lucas' actual original idea for the film?

The Hidden Fortress. Plus a half dozen other films.

 

[otc]

I dunno...I feel like if he hadn't intended for vader to be his father, he wouldn't have gone down the whole obi-wan "I knew your father" and the whole vader-obi-wan "now the student has become the master" road.

Although perhaps it is more likely that Vader's last name wasn't originally supposed to be Skywalker.

 

[Jr Mouse]

The original last name of the hero was meant to be Starkiller.

 

[Ataturk]



The Hidden Fortress. Plus a half dozen other films.

So? The Hidden Fortress was made by a guy known for resetting Shakespeare in medieval Japan.

And if you google the Hidden Fortress, it was apparently a quasi-remake of another of the guy's own movies, which was based on a play which was based on a poem which was (supposedly) based on a real life guy who lived 800 years ago.

Everybody who's ever made a movie does the same stuff.

 

[RFX45]



The Hidden Fortress. Plus a half dozen other films.

I actually meant in Star Wars because all that's been posted seems to be someone else's idea. Outside of JarJar I guess, no one would take credit for that.

 

[Ataturk]

(CNN)—Daniel Fleetwood, a "Star Wars" fan whose dying wish was to see the upcoming movie, died this week.

"He is now one with God and with the Force," his wife, Ashley Fleetwood, wrote on her Facebook page Tuesday. He died in his sleep and in peace, she posted.

Fleetwood, a 32-year-old "Star Wars" aficionado who had terminal cancer, got the chance to see an unedited version of "Star Wars: The Force Awakens" on Thursday, a Disney representative confirmed.

Can you imagine the Star Trek fan who died right after seeing Star Trek into Darkness? What a way to go...

 

[lawyerdad]



So? The Hidden Fortress was made by a guy known for resetting Shakespeare in medieval Japan.

And if you google the Hidden Fortress, it was apparently a quasi-remake of another of the guy's own movies, which was based on a play which was based on a poem which was (supposedly) based on a real life guy who lived 800 years ago.

Everybody who's ever made a movie does the same stuff.

You know what would be fun? Let's turn this into another Led Zeppelin sucks because they just stole all their musical ideas while awesome bands like Cake and Metallica forged their music from the pure essence of original creativity!!!! thread. That would be totally awesome.

 

[Jr Mouse]

******* love CAKE.

 

[Harold falcon]



So? The Hidden Fortress was made by a guy known for resetting Shakespeare in medieval Japan.

And if you google the Hidden Fortress, it was apparently a quasi-remake of another of the guy's own movies, which was based on a play which was based on a poem which was (supposedly) based on a real life guy who lived 800 years ago.

Everybody who's ever made a movie does the same stuff.

Kurosawa never denied he was adapting Shakespeare. Lucas denied his theft for years. It's only when the internet got started, and you can see the ******* trench run stolen shot for shot from a B&W WWII movie that he had to admit it.

 

[lawyerdad]



Have I used "marsupial" too often lately? I only try to sprinkle it in. I will dial it back.

Nah, I was just recalling an instance when you pointed out that there are times when it's exactly the word you're looking for.

 

[Ataturk]

Everybody knows the Star Wars dogfights were based on WW2 movies (which were themselves based on real events!). The only thing I haven't heard is that anyone tried to hide it. Do you have a source?

 

[wojt]

ofc Star Wars is recycled ideas from ww2 dogfights, medieval knights, Buddhism, westerns to Dune and Kurosawa. It's all nicely blended. Most art is in some way influenced by previous creators. Why is this a problem suddenly?

 

[El Argentino]



ofc Star Wars is recycled ideas from ww2 dogfights, medieval knights, Buddhism, westerns to Dune and Kurosawa. It's all nicely blended. Most art is in some way influenced by previous creators. Why is this a problem suddenly?

If art is based on previous art, could we throw off Thrawn?

 

[Jr Mouse]

A huge amount of modern sci-fi has its roots in the work that was done in John Carpenter of Mars. The irony in seeing people accuse the recent movie based on the property of being a rip off of the Star Wars prequels was not insignificant.

 

[Harold falcon]



ofc Star Wars is recycled ideas from ww2 dogfights, medieval knights, Buddhism, westerns to Dune and Kurosawa. It's all nicely blended. Most art is in some way influenced by previous creators. Why is this a problem suddenly?

There's influence and then there's just outright theft. Lucas is the latter. The man never had an original thought in that huge melon on top of his neck in his life.