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A more immediate pressing question is... how did Poe get off of Jakku?

Smuggled his way out via Finn's BHole
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I want some Rey Rey.

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A more immediate pressing question is... how did Poe get off of Jakku?

If one is to accept he survived the crash is this really that hard to buy into? Made a deal with a smuggler? Had an on planet contact with the Resistance? Had an emergency communication device stashed on planet? Dumb luck?

I feel like there are bigger fish to fry.

I heard it stated recently that movies are not plot delivery services. Their job is to deliver an enjoyable experience. Sometimes you just need to accept things happen off screen that will never be fully explained in the narrative.
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If one is to accept he survived the crash is this really that hard to buy into? Made a deal with a smuggler? Had an on planet contact with the Resistance? Had an emergency communication device stashed on planet? Dumb luck?

I feel like there are bigger fish to fry.

I heard it stated recently that movies are not plot delivery services. Their job is to deliver an enjoyable experience. Sometimes you just need to accept things happen off screen that will never be fully explained in the narrative.

I suppose that my issue is not that he escaped, but that he did so offstage, and that the writers dispatched of a pivotal part in the first stanza of the movie in such a perfunctory manner.  It's like a 9th grader got towards the word limit of his story, and halfway through the build up, writes "And then the heroes escaped using an ingenious strategem.  The End,"  The pacing of that part of the movie just seems... off.  

 

For me, these types of pacing issues are much more important to the movie than whether Poe might be gay (maybe, but unless a romantic comedy breaks out in the middle of the series, it probably doesn't matter much), or if Rey is too good at kicking ass to be a compelling character (the answer is no.)  

 

For me, like you said, the former affects my enjoyment of a movie much more than the latter.  For me, the latter is easy to accept, since we are dealing with a magical world.  The former, on the other hand, ejects me outside of the movie experience, if only for a moment, to say "wait, what just happened.  I don't get it."  

 

tldr: I generally liked the movie, but there were some moviemaking issues outside of the Star Wars Universe that made the experience jumpy at times.

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Worst part of the prequels: the names.  "Count Dooku" should never have made it out of the cutting room board alive.  

 

So, went to a Star Wars random name generator, typed in my name, and got this:

Cedini Voidharvest, A smuggler from Teyr

 

Using a formula, I get: Leufo Ausca.  

 

Dear George, please feel free to use either.  I don't expect royalties, but since you are not $4B richer, a new leather jacket and pair of boots doesn't seem to be too much of an imposition.

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Well the original plan was for Poe to die in the crash. JJ has said he liked the character and the actor so much he changed plans. I could see it bothering some people but it's not like we saw the body. At the end of the day the fact that Poe and Finn worked so well in their scenes together that I'm willing to overlook it happening offstage, as you say.

I've got issues with the film. Some I've said before. A few I've yet to get into. That really wasn't one of them.

The larger point we disagree on is things always need to happen onstage. They really don't. In fact this can often drag a film to a snail pace when it does.
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Wort part of the prequels. Yoda jumping around in his light saber fights like a Pokemon. I always envisioned him being almost totally defensive. Using the force. To move objects and push enemies away. Jedi or not, him using a light saber in that manner neve sat right with me.

Also Anakin was beyond creepy interacting with Padme.
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Clearly Poe is the Han Solo of this trilogy in terms of personality, so it makes some sense that there is an air of mystery about him. And clearly Finn is the guy who is supposed to represent Joe Sixpack, so since Finn left Poe for dead, so did we as an audience.
Edited by Van Veen - 12/26/15 at 10:24pm
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Rey is probably very familiar with it because she fixes stuff for him and has done work on the MF.

Meh... yeah, that's the vibe I got... but the keyword you used is "probably". Think of how cool it would have been if the movie opened with close-ups of Rey working on a ship (slaving away, sweaty, dusty, etc.), zooooom out, and there's the MF: a ship she's become intimately familiar with over the past couple of years. No "probably" required.

I know I'm probably being too hard on this chapter, but I just don't think it holds an objective candle to the original trilogy. They skipped too many potentially poignant scenes in favor of lowest-common-denominator-pleasing action sequences. (And I really, really hated Lost).

I actually think some of this stuff will get fleshed out further in the next episodes. I don't think I've seen anything on this forum yet about why AT-ATs were on Tatooine Jakku. There might be a pretty cool story there that we get to hear. Thoughts..?
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It’s almost like force sensitives are special.
...after being trained. Even though Luke's original training lasted only a few on-screen moments in SW, the audience at-least got the jist that training was necessary.
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I swear half the nitpicking I hear about Rey in this film come from people who seem to have been updating their Twitter accounts or FB statuses instead of actually paying attention to what was going on.
For the record, I liked Rey quite-a-bit. I thought the acting and character were spot-on for the content of the script. Same goes for Kylo Ren. I think there's lots of potential for a very cool and nuanced character there, and Adam Driver did a really good job.
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I disagree, Rey working on the Falcon in the opening shot would be a bit too on the nose.


Besides, the "garbage ship" sequence is my favourite scene in the movie, and you'd lose that.

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Wort part of the prequels. Yoda jumping around in his light saber fights like a Pokemon. I always envisioned him being almost totally defensive. Using the force. To move objects and push enemies away. Jedi or not, him using a light saber in that manner neve sat right with me.

Also Anakin was beyond creepy interacting with Padme.

The fk are you on about?  It's the best scene in Star Wars:

 

 

"Tatooine's sand is so rough and you're so smooth."

 

 

I use that line all day every day to score the grannies.

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The fk are you on about?  It's the best scene in Star Wars:


"Tatooine's sand is so rough and you're so smooth."


I use that line all day every day to score the grannies.

Seriously underused Iine. But, there are so many good ones.
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I disagree, Rey working on the Falcon in the opening shot would be a bit too on the nose.


Besides, the "garbage ship" sequence is my favourite scene in the movie, and you'd lose that.


You could still have that kind scene, since the Falcon has always been a hunk of junk that could fly.
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The fk are you on about?  It's the best scene in Star Wars:

 

 

"Tatooine's sand is so rough and you're so smooth."

 

 

I use that line all day every day to score the grannies.

 

 

 "I don't like sand. It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere. Not like here. Here everything is soft and smooth."

 

I won't lie - I gagged when Anakin said that line in Revenge of the Sith. Not only was it a truly, truly terrible line, but the sulky way in which he said it made it even worse, if such a thing is even possible. 

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"Are you an angel?"
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