Originally Posted by LA Guy
Finn vs. Ren. It would be like me facing a world class fencer. I have some rudimentary understanding of fencing principles, and I'm reasonably confident that in overall hand-to-hand combat training and practice, I have a lot more years in it then any Olympic fencer, but I mean, c'mon, I'd be skewered nearly immediately. Physical strength doesn't matter much when it comes to magical laser weapons. Luke Skywalker, in Empire Strikes back, is only halfway finished his training, and he could kick any stormtroopers ass. Ren is much more advanced than was Luke, and there is no indication that Finn was a standout in any way. In fact, the expedition to Jakku was his first engagement.
Weapons are designed to change the game. Change who has the advantage. Strength is important, but it only goes so far. If that were the case, all fencers (and all athletes, for that matter), would just be the biggest strongest people possible. Yet somehow the 2012 Olympic gold medalist in Epee was a 5'9" dude in an event where the average height is probably over 6'. (The silver medalist was 6'4". I'm 5'10", and I feel like a shrimp whenever I go to a fencing tournament with my wife.)Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Healthy K.Ren, if he were smart, probably would have kicked Rey's ass just because he would have the ability to overpower her and wear her down, even if she were better technically.
Since we're talking about fencing, I just easily found an example of a gender-mixed tournament
where a 5'4" 19-year-old woman came in 2nd out of almost 150 mostly male fencers.Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
So it's not a huge stretch to think that a woman with street fighting experience with a similar weapon could taken down a seriously injured man with a very rough fighting style. I think the filmmakers made a very deliberate attempt to set this up so it wasn't a huge WTF moment, and they certainly convinced me. So, if you think that this is unrealistic, maybe you're a sexist. Or maybe I'm just a huge feminist and an Uncle Van to my own gender. I don't know.