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post #241 of 549
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Originally Posted by Ataturk View Post

Talking past each other, no doubt. There are a lot of separate but related issues at play here:

1) Whether the "clock" really looked like a bomb;

2) Whether the "clock" could be reasonably taken as a bomb by people who didn't know better;

3) Whether the kid knew or should have known it would be mistaken for a bomb;

4) Whether it had any other reason to be there;

5) Whether the school should punish kids for possessing things that look like weapons but turn out not to be;

6) Whether doing so is consistent with other zero-tolerance cases;

Etc.

1+^^

Any reasonable person's reaction to this news story would be like this:

1) Reading initial news articles that don't show a picture of the bomb: poor kid
2) Seeing the photo: that looks awfully like a bomb

"It's a pencil case" excuse is pretty weak. If he put the clock inside a bomb-shaped pencil case, would people still be defending this kid?

Probably the most successful trolling that I've ever seen - visit to the white house, props from some of the wealthiest men in the world, donations - this kid is amazing.
post #242 of 549
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post


The kid was arrested for a bomb hoax.

The bomb squad doesn't usually blow up fake bombs.

There is not doubt that the kid lied about making a clock. He didn't make or invent anything. He took a clock apart and put the innards into a case. Any 6 year old can do this. He didn't make a clock. He made a fake bomb. Thanks to the limp dick media, it's working out great for him.

 

Limp dick media also made the clock bomb look more dangerous than it really was.  This looks like a briefcase bomb worthy of a Jason Bourne movie prop

 

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This?  Not so much

 

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post #243 of 549
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Probably the most successful trolling that I've ever seen - visit to the white house, props from some of the wealthiest men in the world, donations - this kid is amazing.

Successful, for sure. But even as a hoax it's looking less and less impressive every day. He couldn't even pick a radio that ran off batteries?
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post #245 of 549
If it weren't for this thread and FB, I wouldn't even know about this news story...
post #246 of 549

Worst case scenerio a 14 yr old kid pulled a prank . Remember several teachers had  examined this thing already

Worst case scenario the authorities erred slightly on the side of caution 

Everything else is media bullshit and paranoid overaction

post #247 of 549
Clockmed’s sister told MSNBC:

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”

So now we find this is a pattern with this belligerent Muslim family. They have experience with threats to the school. Ahmed said the thought his ‘project’ might look like “a threat” and “suspicious”. Ahmed first showed the “clock” to a male teacher. This teacher told him not to show it to anyone else. Ahmed showed the “clock” to every teacher until he finally got the desired response.

The 14-year old all-American schoolboy clockmaker who didn’t make a clock at all and is the son of a belligerent Muslim activist and perennial Sudanese presidential candidate whose brother runs a trucking company amusingly called Twin Towers Transportation.

- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clockmeister-ahmed-mohameds-sister-was-once-suspended-from-school-for-threatening-to-blow-it-up.html/#sthash.OgiOPSmf.dpuf
post #248 of 549
I hope the kid doesn't bring any "experiments" to the White House.
post #249 of 549
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Originally Posted by Kai View Post

Clockmed’s sister told MSNBC:

“I got suspended from school for three days from this stupid same district, from this girl saying I wanted to blow up the school, something I had nothing to do with.”

So now we find this is a pattern with this belligerent Muslim family. They have experience with threats to the school. Ahmed said the thought his ‘project’ might look like “a threat” and “suspicious”. Ahmed first showed the “clock” to a male teacher. This teacher told him not to show it to anyone else. Ahmed showed the “clock” to every teacher until he finally got the desired response.

The 14-year old all-American schoolboy clockmaker who didn’t make a clock at all and is the son of a belligerent Muslim activist and perennial Sudanese presidential candidate whose brother runs a trucking company amusingly called Twin Towers Transportation.

- See more at: http://pamelageller.com/2015/09/clockmeister-ahmed-mohameds-sister-was-once-suspended-from-school-for-threatening-to-blow-it-up.html/#sthash.OgiOPSmf.dpuf

That looks like a reputable and unbiased source.
post #250 of 549


That was a trip down a rathole of hate and ignorance

post #251 of 549

Texas police violated Ahmed's right to counsel.

 

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/16/police-violated-ahmed-mohamed-s-civil-rights-by-keeping-away-his-parents.html

 

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The law is clear: Juveniles in Texas may have a parent, guardian, or attorney present during interrogation. Mohamed was repeatedly denied this request.
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Mohamed, a freshman at MacArthur High School, insists he repeatedly asked officers to call his parents while being interrogated. Mohamed was questioned at the school, then taken in handcuffs to a juvenile detention center, where he was fingerprinted and interrogated without his parents present, according to police and Mohamed.

Texas Family Code is clear this was not supposed to happen.

“A child may not be left unattended in a juvenile processing office and is entitled to be accompanied by the child’s parent, guardian, or other custodian or by the child’s attorney,” Section 52.025 (PDF) states.

Mohamed did not see his parents until he was released from a juvenile detention center, according to police and his family.


Edited by BrooksLauren77 - 9/23/15 at 8:54pm
post #252 of 549
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Originally Posted by englade321 View Post


That was a trip down a rathole of hate and ignorance

The backlash is more interesting than the story to me. Why are people so pissed off and suspicious about this kid?

Whether there was actually Islamaphobia in play in his arrest or not, there has absolutely been plenty in the backlash.
post #253 of 549

He's Muslim and brown. Nothing else matters.

post #254 of 549
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

The backlash is more interesting than the story to me. Why are people so pissed off and suspicious about this kid?

Whether there was actually Islamaphobia in play in his arrest or not, there has absolutely been plenty in the backlash.

It is probably part that and part the instant defense of the kid by the President and others. People need an us vs them story. Team Red vs Team Blue, etc.
post #255 of 549
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I like Maher, I share many of his opinions, especially about political correctness.
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