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post #46 of 80
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post

Same for the Retina Pro over the Air for you? I was leaning towards the Retina Pro but now I'm not sure. Another thread soon?

I have an Air. The screen is not great. If you do any kind of video/photo editing, I'd definitely go with a Pro. Otherwise, the Air is more than adequate for most users.
post #47 of 80
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I feel like Laptops are different. Don't get me wrong, I would love the 13 inch Retina Pro. It's just not the same level of deal breaker for me.

This. The screen is more of a big deal for me with tablets than with laptops. Also, the price difference between air and retina pro is more than just a little.... Especially since there's no option for discrete graphics on the 13in retina pro (which kinda seems like a must if you're gonna go with the retina), and the 15in with discrete is basically 3k (and that's if you aren't going to upgrade anything else).
post #48 of 80
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Originally Posted by Meis View Post

This. The screen is more of a big deal for me with tablets than with laptops. Also, the price difference between air and retina pro is more than just a little.... Especially since there's no option for discrete graphics on the 13in retina pro (which kinda seems like a must if you're gonna go with the retina), and the 15in with discrete is basically 3k (and that's if you aren't going to upgrade anything else).


To be fair, 15 inch Retina starts at $2.2K.
post #49 of 80

I thought the Mini was a huge letdown until I saw one in person yesterday. It's actually quite amazing in person. I think it puts the other 7" offerings to shame. The screen resolution also isn't as bad as say an iPad first or second gen because it's a slightly higher PPI. I bought one for myself and my wife. 

post #50 of 80
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Originally Posted by CLFN View Post

I thought the Mini was a huge letdown until I saw one in person yesterday. It's actually quite amazing in person. I think it puts the other 7" offerings to shame. The screen resolution also isn't as bad as say an iPad first or second gen because it's a slightly higher PPI. I bought one for myself and my wife. 
I hope to see one at the Apple shop this weekend. I have the regular iPad so I have no intention of getting the mini, but I am curious.
post #51 of 80
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I hope to see one at the Apple shop this weekend. I have the regular iPad so I have no intention of getting the mini, but I am curious.

I think you might be tempted to ditch your iPad (unless it's retina). The size and weight of the Mini are incredibly appealing and the screen resolution is acceptable. At least for me it is. 

post #52 of 80
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It's an interesting product. The weight makes it extremely appealing, but I like the screen real-estate and resolution my iPad 3 provides. Want to see one in person before I pass formal judgment. The ability to hold it comfortably for long periods of time sounds wonderful.
post #53 of 80

Picked up a black 16gb model yesterday, it's a pretty solid piece of hardware. Been using it for quite a few hours and I have to say that I like it a lot, it's far lighter and more portable than my old iPad - it fits in my jacket pocket so I can bring it along when I go outside. The camera is no match for my cellphone of course (Nokia Pureview 808), but it performs well enough and is quite fun to use since the live view is so big compared to what I'm used to.

post #54 of 80
I tried it out, I'm going to definitely get one. the main thing is the weight and the size. really nice and the screen is just big enough to do stuff...kind of on the edge of being too small but it isn't.

I compared it directly with a MSFT surface since the stores were just in the same mall. Decided I'll go with the ipad (I'm going to oregon in a few weeks so I'll buy it then w/o tax). foo.gif
post #55 of 80
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Question to those who bought the mini or spent an extended period of time with it. How is the scaling of text handled? If you are reading a web page or e-book does the mini keep the default font sizes from the full size iPad or scale it down? Any usability issues related to this? My mother has the iPad 2 and I believe this would be a better alternative for her. She has a concern that things on the screen will be smaller and harder for her to read.
post #56 of 80
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Originally Posted by Jr Mouse View Post

Question to those who bought the mini or spent an extended period of time with it. How is the scaling of text handled? If you are reading a web page or e-book does the mini keep the default font sizes from the full size iPad or scale it down? Any usability issues related to this? My mother has the iPad 2 and I believe this would be a better alternative for her. She has a concern that things on the screen will be smaller and harder for her to read.
Spent time with a mini today at the Apple shop. I'm really impressed, much more so than I thought I'd be. The size and weight are perfect, particularly for travel. The default font sizes are maintained for webpages and the e-book, and the video looks fine on the smaller screen. My only criticism is lack of retina display. While the display isn't bad, I'm used to the crispness of display that I have on my current iPad. With that said, I'll eventually get one, but not until retina display is available.
post #57 of 80
Why the hell is this not 1200 x 800 like the rest of the tablets? It's pretty obvious that the next one will be so why wait. Actually, I guess the response to the product says it all, people don't care that they are being gouged.
I honestly wonder how long that attitude will last.

Question for Mouse and the other fanbois: does the inability to upgrade RAM, swap out batteries, fix the screen and so on bother you at all?
The was the deal breaker for me when looking at the Pro, I want to be able to upgrade when and if I want. And paying over $200 for a battery just seems criminal.

All that said, maybe its time I joined the cult of IPad. Are they usable if that is the only Mac product you own? Are their problems loading media and the like?
post #58 of 80
Apple is date-driven when it comes to product launches, and it was decided that they would release an iPad mini in the fourth quarter of 2012. I'm sure they would have loved to include a retina display if they would still be able to keep the mini at its current price point, but it's simply too expensive of a technology for now and it would absolutely destroy Apple's margins. Their margins are already getting destroyed right now because they have a slew of brand new products that were just released, and they haven't gained efficiencies in production and supply chain control yet. Over time, their margins will improve.

And good for Apple for doing what it does: releasing products that get incremental upgrades over a predictable time period. Each and every time, they manage to sell out on product releases so it works for their bottom line. And people are pretty satisfied with the products. Demand is still strong and healthy.

Once the new mini comes out with the retina display, it will most likely (based on past trends and I cannot of course say this with 100% certainty) sell like hotcakes too.

tl;dr:
- Apple couldn't include a retina display without either a) keeping its current price points and demolishing their margins or b) passing the increased cost to customers, who would balk (they're already sort of balking at its current price point since most people expected it to be $199; yes, blah blah it's 'better' than the $199 tablets, but you get what I mean).
post #59 of 80
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It's not just price. Retina requires additional power drain over the non Retina LCD's. A bigger battery would have been needed and they couldn't have met the size and weight goal of the current mini. That's why the iPad 3 is heavier then the 2. Eventually this will be solved, but the tech is not there yet.
post #60 of 80
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Apple is date-driven when it comes to product launches, and it was decided that they would release an iPad mini in the fourth quarter of 2012. I'm sure they would have loved to include a retina display if they would still be able to keep the mini at its current price point, but it's simply too expensive of a technology for now and it would absolutely destroy Apple's margins. Their margins are already getting destroyed right now because they have a slew of brand new products that were just released, and they haven't gained efficiencies in production and supply chain control yet. Over time, their margins will improve.
And good for Apple for doing what it does: releasing products that get incremental upgrades over a predictable time period. Each and every time, they manage to sell out on product releases so it works for their bottom line. And people are pretty satisfied with the products. Demand is still strong and healthy.
Once the new mini comes out with the retina display, it will most likely (based on past trends and I cannot of course say this with 100% certainty) sell like hotcakes too.
tl;dr:
- Apple couldn't include a retina display without either a) keeping its current price points and demolishing their margins or b) passing the increased cost to customers, who would balk (they're already sort of balking at its current price point since most people expected it to be $199; yes, blah blah it's 'better' than the $199 tablets, but you get what I mean).

No offense, but that's not really an answer. And notice I asked why not a 1200x800 not "retina" ( a term I hate, but whatever).

I'm sure they will sell like hotcakes, and in a sense that answers why as well. But "because we can" is a pretty lame reason.
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