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post #166 of 766
if only that was for sale 2 weeks from now, I'd buy it. can't afford it right now :'(
post #167 of 766
Thread Starter 
I hope for you it will still be there! I really wish I could've gotten this jacket, too.
post #168 of 766
Yeah, just posted in someone should buy thread, but the jacket is really awesome. I saw it at a shop and really loved it. Unfortunately I don't have the money to spend right now, otherwise I wouldn't hesitate to pick it up.
post #169 of 766

Is a 4 like a 48 or a 50? Measurements looks close but shoulders might be too small on me

 

Can't really afford it anyway :/ Candrew frequently has nice shit for sale though

post #170 of 766
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

What size do you normally wear in other brands?

For anyone who's interested, here's what international shops consider as Attachment sizing:

2 = XS
3 = S
4 = M
5 = L

But really, in my experience 36 corresponds to 2.

way late on this, but usually a small. the measurements peg me at a 2 like you said, although the sleeve length seems a bit long
post #171 of 766
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Size 2 will probably be OK for you.
post #172 of 766
Just picked up this KK Attachment hoodie in wool/cashmere. Apologies for the crappy quick pic. Fabric is nice - light and soft but pretty warm; riri zips are good. I'm a slim 48 and size 3 worked well for me.



Store pic:




Got this on sale from autograph in the UK; price was good (for a brand that always seems very expensive outside Japan) and the shipping (FedEx) was insanely fast.. I ordered Wednesday night and it was delivered Friday morning here in LA.
post #173 of 766
very nice pick up!
post #174 of 766
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Originally Posted by tellure View Post

Just picked up this KK Attachment hoodie in wool/cashmere. Apologies for the crappy quick pic. Fabric is nice - light and soft but pretty warm; riri zips are good. I'm a slim 48 and size 3 worked well for me.

Judging from how tightly it fits (e.g. it's pulling around your breasts), I suspect you could wear size 4 too. The size 3 looks ok on you, but there's a good chance the size 4 will look better. Anyway, your fit seems to confirm what I've been saying all along about this 2=46/3=48 sizing advice being inaccurate.

European and US sites tend to promote tighter looking fits than what is commonly modeled for this label on Japanese web sites. I spend far more time looking at Attachment on Japanese web sites, so that probably explains my bias. However the designer's own look book shoots would appear to suggest that he intends for the pieces to not be worn so tightly.
post #175 of 766
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Originally Posted by BB1 View Post


Judging from how tightly it fits (e.g. it's pulling around your breasts), I suspect you could wear size 4 too. The size 3 looks ok on you, but there's a good chance the size 4 will look better. Anyway, your fit seems to confirm what I've been saying all along about this 2=46/3=48 sizing advice being inaccurate.

European and US sites tend to promote tighter looking fits than what is commonly modeled for this label on Japanese web sites. I spend far more time looking at Attachment on Japanese web sites, so that probably explains my bias. However the designer's own look book shoots would appear to suggest that he intends for the pieces to not be worn so tightly.

 

I find that this is the case for a lot of sites.  The model is always crammed into the clothing and it doesn't look good IMO.

post #176 of 766
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by BB1 View Post

Judging from how tightly it fits (e.g. it's pulling around your breasts), I suspect you could wear size 4 too. The size 3 looks ok on you, but there's a good chance the size 4 will look better. Anyway, your fit seems to confirm what I've been saying all along about this 2=46/3=48 sizing advice being inaccurate.

Doesn't confirm shit man. Different people have different preferred fits. It fits him the same way it fits on the Essence model, for example, and my coat is a Size 2 and is definitely not too small for my 46-47 frame. Wear it how you like it.

Slimmer fits generally look better on Size 44-46, but it looks fine on him and the store model shown.
post #177 of 766
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Originally Posted by brad-t View Post

Doesn't confirm shit man. Different people have different preferred fits. It fits him the same way it fits on the Essence model, for example, and my coat is a Size 2 and is definitely not too small for my 46-47 frame. Wear it how you like it.

I cannot recall ever seeing a piece of outerwear modeled by Essence where the fit was tight enough in the chest to form a cup outline around the model's breast. But I suspect Tellure has a more athletic build than Essence's wimpy models. Nor do I believe most people are looking for such a tight fit in the chest for an outerwear/hoodie type piece.

Note that by "confirm" I am not saying this one example definitively proves Attachment sizing. So don't get so defensive. Rather it is another confirmation that saying 2=46/3=48 is often not the best advice. Tellure describes himself as a "slim 48" and yet he can barely fit into this size 3 piece. Thus it is unlikely this piece would fit someone who was a true 48.

Lol at how you own a single coat in size 2. I own more than 30 pieces of Attachment in size 2, so I'm likely far more familiar with how size 2 in this brand fits than you. Additionally your coat is a long overcoat/cloak piece which are always cut very generously. But this is your thread, so you're the expert here.

I should take pictures of myself wearing both Geller 46 and Attachment size 2 pieces. You would quickly be able to see how oversized the 46 pieces look on me relative to Attachment size 2. That's why I was originally so shocked to see people claiming 2=46. It absolutely does not match my experience when comparing Attachment to most US designer label sizing.
post #178 of 766
Geller sizing varies radically depending on the piece. For knits and some outerwear, I wear a 48, easily. For some of his hoodies and other fleece pieces, a size 48 is really oversized. On some blazers and other more fitted pieces, a size 50 is fitted on me. I don't think that Geller is a good point of reference.

I am a slim 50, or a larger 48, and Attachment outerwear in a size 4 generally fits me well. Sometimes, I can't wear it, because I'm probably more "athletic" than a lot of Attachment customers, and the garment is overly fitted through the shoulders and chest, and boxy through the body. A lot of whether a garment looks better on a person fitted or oversized depends on that person's build. I have fairly sloped shoulders (they are generously described as "boxer's shoulders"), and anything really drapey just looks sloppy on me. That slightly oversized, drapey look, looks best on guys with angular shoulders combined with a slim build.

I don't own that much Attachment, but am friends with a retailer who stocks Attachment, and have tried on lots of garments of various sorts from the brand.
post #179 of 766
Thread Starter 
I'm not claiming to be an expert. I created this thread because I like the brand and I want to support it – not to be sanctimonious. By the way, here is the same hoodie worn by the Essence model.



Very slim, if he had "cups" I'm sure you'd see a hint of them.

I'm just saying that one-size-fits-all does not really work. I'm giving the best advice I can based on my admittedly limited experience along with experience I've collected from others and discussions I've had with the manager of an Attachment shop in Japan. Not everyone of the same size is created equal. I mean, hell, RFX is wearing a Size 1 well – are you telling me he's a size 42?

My advice has been pretty clear, I think: judge by the item's measurements versus your own.
post #180 of 766
I would say that hoodie looks better a little 'loose'(as not hugging the body just right) like in the model above because it makes it look a bit coat-ish.
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