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post #376 of 470
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Originally Posted by cj610 View Post


I can't help too much with AE since the only/best fit for me seems to be the 511. What's your size in other brands/lasts? Someone else might have the same size and could provide a more accurate answer. Good luck......I feel your pain.

 

Generally a 10.5 EEE, but it varies (as you guys know). Some 11 EEEs are not close to fitting. The Sauk Drive (201 last) in 10.5 EEE is a little big. I get to see what Pepper is wearing when he posts to the AE thread, which is helpful. He's perhaps is an easier fit than I am.  

 

Is there a preferred brand for us since AE has limited options? I'm looking for less formal shoes to go jeans and casual slacks. Likely bluchers and boots, perhaps with rubber sole since I live in Portland, OR where wet is a given 8 months out of the year. 

 

When I spoke to AE yesterday they guy suggested I go to Nordstrom to get measured. I laughed. Tried to explain that they have no idea how to measure or fit a really wide foot. He didn't get it.

post #377 of 470

I haven't had good luck with AEs fitting me for a long time so I tend to avoid them.  My advice is to got the educated trail and error course. 

 

For context, I generally wear a 7 EEE US and UK6.5 G.  I have had good luck with Cheaney's 11028 last (actually from Herring Shoes, but made by Cheaney) in the G fitting.  It was a little counter intuitive because the 11028 is a long narrow last.  I found the advice from Herring to be very helpful and spot on.

 

Generally speaking, the English G or H fittings seem like they might work for you, but not the Spanish or other European makers (Carmina, Meermin).  I have a pair from Vass in a H fitting that are breaking in well and will work, but likely won't be as comfortable as the Cheaney/Herring shoes as the P2 last seems to run a touch more narrow.  I also have a pair of Chukka suede boots in a G fitting from Church, which are not as comfortable as the Cheaney/Herring but still work well.  (FWIW, my best fitting "shoes" are my Wolverine 1000 Miles).

 

So I'd suggest trying Loake, Cheaney or Cheaney for Herring, or another English maker in a G or H (widest) fitting.  Be prepared to invest some money in shipping back and forth to find your best fit.  I'd actually suggest starting with Loake 1880's, as they are generally similar in cost, fit and finish to AE's.

 

Or fly to the UK and try shoes on over there.  :eek:

post #378 of 470
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Originally Posted by Sudonihm View Post
 

 

Or fly to the UK and try shoes on over there.  :eek:


Thanks Sudonihm, that was helpful. Shame that I was just in London a few months ago and didn't take the opportunity to look at shoes. Next time I'm there... 

post #379 of 470

Cheap commercial plug: I am looking to find a new home for the following shoes.

 

Allen Edmonds Black Park Ave, 11 EEE

Allen Edmonds Black Park Ave, 11.5 EEE

Allen Edmonds, Black Chester, 11 EEE

Allen Edmonds, Merlot Chester, 11 EEE

 

Each is used, but they are in good condition and the Merlot Chester is freshly recrafted. PM me if these may meet your needs.

post #380 of 470

Just wanted to follow up on a couple of wide foot things. 

 

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Originally Posted by Sudonihm View Post
 

I haven't had good luck with AEs fitting me for a long time so I tend to avoid them.  My advice is to got the educated trail and error course. 

 

For context, I generally wear a 7 EEE US and UK6.5 G.  I have had good luck with Cheaney's 11028 last (actually from Herring Shoes, but made by Cheaney) in the G fitting.  It was a little counter intuitive because the 11028 is a long narrow last.  I found the advice from Herring to be very helpful and spot on.

 

Generally speaking, the English G or H fittings seem like they might work for you, but not the Spanish or other European makers (Carmina, Meermin).  I have a pair from Vass in a H fitting that are breaking in well and will work, but likely won't be as comfortable as the Cheaney/Herring shoes as the P2 last seems to run a touch more narrow.  I also have a pair of Chukka suede boots in a G fitting from Church, which are not as comfortable as the Cheaney/Herring but still work well.  (FWIW, my best fitting "shoes" are my Wolverine 1000 Miles).

 

So I'd suggest trying Loake, Cheaney or Cheaney for Herring, or another English maker in a G or H (widest) fitting.  Be prepared to invest some money in shipping back and forth to find your best fit.  I'd actually suggest starting with Loake 1880's, as they are generally similar in cost, fit and finish to AE's.

 

Or fly to the UK and try shoes on over there.  :eek:

This is possibly some of the most helpful shoe advice I've received. Just wanted you to know I appreciate it. About to pull the trigger on a couple of things. Will gladly eat the shipping cost if they don't work out. Thanks for sharing. 

 

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Originally Posted by Dario65 View Post
 

Hey Doc,

I'm searching for the right last as well and was about to post a similar question. 65 doesn't work well for me either. Have you tried going to the AE site and filtering by last? It's on the left toward the bottom. Maybe see what they have in an Oxford in wider last (201, 511, 73?). 

 

In case it helps, here's what I've found on my oddly shaped shaped feet: 

 

65 (Fifth Ave) - fits snug in the toe box and vamp, can't quite close the gap (small V)

114 last (Nashua) - not even close to fitting. I don't think going up 1/2 size would help much. 

809 (Gobi) - pretty good fit. Plenty of room. Perhaps slightly too large. 

201 (Sauk Drive) - fits large. Good room in the toe box, heel is loose. The boot seems long for a 10.5. Anybody have good luck going down 1/2 for this one?

97 (Sanford) - fits well. Probably the best fitting AE I've tried. I read the 97 last runs narrow, so am surprised this fits so well

678 (Ashton) - just ok fit. A little tight on my small toe  - the taper gets me. Would not buy more of this last. Maybe an 11 EE would work? 

 

Update to this in case it helps any others: 

511 (Longbranch) - a little snug in the toe, esp with my left foot which is slightly larger. Have a half size larger on the way to see how that fits. 

511 (Bellevue) - better than the LB, but still a little tight. I think it would be fine over time, but trying a larger size in this as well. 

 

For my Sauk Drives I'm wearing thicker socks and the heel fits better. The fattest part of my foot pushes over the footbed a little, which is perhaps not good long term. Given this going down a half size isn't an option. 

 

97 is hit and miss. Interestingly I have to pairs of Sanfords now - one pair fits great, the other (black) are too tight. Both 10.5 EEE. May get the black ones stretched. 

post #381 of 470
Wide shoe sizing update!!



Just got my JL Sauntons. 7000 last, size UK10 EE (wide). It fits me like a glove. Just perfect in every part of the foot.

For reference, here are my current brand sizes:

Allen Edmonds, size 10.5 EEE
(5-65, 333, 73, 511 lasts all work well. The 222 and 234 run narrow, the 79 is too short and tapered)
Alden Barrie 10.5 EEE
Alden Hampton 11 E
Carmina Detroit 10 EEE (runs narrow in the toebox)
Enzo Bonafe 946 last 10 H (instep too high)
John Lobb 7000 last 10 EE
Vass P2 last 43.5 H
Vass U last 44.5 H (a little tight in toebox)

I am considering listing the following AEs in B&S. All size 10.5 EEE):

Brown cordovan Strands
Walnut calf Daltons
Navy calf Eagle County
Brown calf Ardsley Park austerity Oxford (already listed)
post #382 of 470
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post

Wide shoe sizing update!!



Just got my JL Sauntons. 7000 last, size UK10 EE (wide). It fits me like a glove. Just perfect in every part of the foot.

For reference, here are my current brand sizes:

Allen Edmonds, size 10.5 EEE
(5-65, 333, 73, 511 lasts all work well. The 222 and 234 run narrow, the 79 is too short and tapered)
Alden Barrie 10.5 EEE
Alden Hampton 11 E
Carmina Detroit 10 EEE (runs narrow in the toebox)
Enzo Bonafe 946 last 10 H (instep too high)
John Lobb 7000 last 10 EE
Vass P2 last 43.5 H
Vass U last 44.5 H (a little tight in toebox)

I am considering listing the following AEs in B&S. All size 10.5 EEE):

Brown cordovan Strands
Walnut calf Daltons
Navy calf Eagle County
Brown calf Ardsley Park austerity Oxford (already listed)

 

These look great and give me hope that I can find a good fitting, comfortable balmoral that closes up nicely. Appreciate you sharing the fit info. 

 

Random rambling about wide foot issues: We have the technology to easily and affordably scan a foot and get the dimensions or 3D printed replica. Why are shoemakers or large retailers not doing this? Maybe time to go have coffee with my buddies at Nike and ask them why this isn't a thing yet. 

 

Would love to buy your strands but the 65 last doesn't work well for me. 

post #383 of 470
I have a 2 pairs Alden Modified Last in 9.5EEE if anyone is interested. One pair is in Shell Color #8... They are too big for me.

I've gone to be-spoke now. Not buying anymore RTW shoes and boots unless they're $250 waterproof boots. Bespoke is the way to go if you can afford to spend about $850-1000 a pair.
post #384 of 470
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Originally Posted by Mike147 View Post

I have a 2 pairs Alden Modified Last in 9.5EEE if anyone is interested. One pair is in Shell Color #8... They are too big for me.

I've gone to be-spoke now. Not buying anymore RTW shoes and boots unless they're $250 waterproof boots. Bespoke is the way to go if you can afford to spend about $850-1000 a pair.


Are the shoes New or Used???

post #385 of 470
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Originally Posted by Mike147 View Post

I have a 2 pairs Alden Modified Last in 9.5EEE if anyone is interested. One pair is in Shell Color #8... They are too big for me.

I've gone to be-spoke now. Not buying anymore RTW shoes and boots unless they're $250 waterproof boots. Bespoke is the way to go if you can afford to spend about $850-1000 a pair.

What have you got? I've never really tried the modified last......People that have seem to find it the most comfortable by far..........
post #386 of 470
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Originally Posted by cj610 View Post

What have you got? I've never really tried the modified last......People that have seem to find it the most comfortable by far..........

I have a pair of Shell #8 Perf Cap Toe in ML and a pair of Black Calf Medallion Cap Toe (special make-up from Moulded Shoe). Both have been worn.. - the Shell #8 pair have only been worn 10-15 times and are in excellent shape. I ordered the PCTs through the Alden Shop in NYC - single order special make up. Alden no longer allows this.

ML is similar to the Barrie Last in the forefoot (width and volume) but has a more narrow waist and heel cup. Very comfortable last.
post #387 of 470

I ordered some AE Lexingon and Mcgregor in 11 EEE to see how they would fit. Had low expectations since they're both the 65 last. The Lexington didn't work. The Mcgregor is a maybe - not too bad of a fit.

 

I recall reading that shoes with Dainite soles have extra lining that makes them fit smaller. Can anybody confirm this? Would like to try a part of Dainite Mcgregor but it won't work if they're a tighter fit. 


Edited by Dario65 - 1/23/16 at 10:58am
post #388 of 470

I apologize for the shameless plug, I just wanted to let you fine people know that I am selling a pair of lightly used Barker (for Charles Tyrwhitt) burgundy semi-brogues in size 10EEE (US), 9.5G (UK) here and on Ebay:

 

http://www.styleforum.net/t/516041/barker-for-charles-tyrwhitt-burgundy-semi-brogue-9-5g-10eee#post_8278178

 

http://www.ebay.com/itm/262247439065?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

 

Turns out my feet aren't as wide as I thought...

post #389 of 470
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Originally Posted by Mike147 View Post

I have a pair of Shell #8 Perf Cap Toe in ML and a pair of Black Calf Medallion Cap Toe (special make-up from Moulded Shoe). Both have been worn.. - the Shell #8 pair have only been worn 10-15 times and are in excellent shape. I ordered the PCTs through the Alden Shop in NYC - single order special make up. Alden no longer allows this.

ML is similar to the Barrie Last in the forefoot (width and volume) but has a more narrow waist and heel cup. Very comfortable last.

Those do sound like some very nice, unique make-ups. I wish I had reason to wear such shoes! I think they'd be wasted on me...................

Good luck with the sale!
post #390 of 470
I'm selling a very nice pair of Alden brown alpine LWB, Commando sole, 9 EEE on modified last. Here's the Ebay listing.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/Alden-Brown-Alpine-LWB-w-Commando-Sole-Modified-Last-9-EEE-/151976565049?nav=SEARCH
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