Fit Critique - J.P. Tilford (Samuelsohn) Ashton Suit

Hi everyone,

I recently purchased a J.P. Tilford (i.e. Samuelsohn) OTR suit. As a little background, this will primarily be used for meetings outside of the office (I work in a business casual environment). I wanted something fairly conservative and timeless that wasn't too fashion forward. My existing suits are so-so at best, and have never fit me particularly well, so I figured it was time for an upgrade. The retailer I purchased it from offers lifetime alterations, so I figured that now that I've had a chance to wear it a couple times and take a look at the fit, I may bring it back in to get a few things tweaked.

I posted these photos in an unrelated thread and a couple SFers provided some great feedback. However, prior to taking it back for alterations, I was just curious if anyone else had anything to add. Based on the comments I've already recieved, I think I would ask them to:

• Raise the hem on the pants (maybe about 1/2", or even more in the front. Not too sure yet...)
• Bring in the waist a tad
• If possible, clean up some of the bunching on the back

I realize that there isn't too much that can be done about my lower right shoulder in an OTR, which I'm fine with. Also, I realize that I should be wearing a tie since my top button is done up. These pictures were taken for fit alone, so I didn't bother to put one on.

Just curious if anyone had any other thoughts before I take back in. Here are the pics:



Thanks for your help, very much appreciated!

Well, given you have orders already in the pipe, I will be useless and say that I think those are the biggest issues and you should be fine if they are done correctly.
Sleeve length looks pretty good.
Maybe some dimpling in the sleeve under the shoulder pad. But I don't think the shoulders are too big or small though I cannot get a great read on them.
Might be more than .5" for the hem.

Why do so many people have such differing shoulders?
At least I have a very good reason for myself.

Good luck.

Shoulders a tad too wide.
Jacket too full in the body.
Jacket wrist too wide.
Pants are terribly long.

The suit is fine and congratulations on your purchase. Have the pants taken up so there is a slight break and you are good to go!

Adjust the button stance, bring in the waist a bit, and cut a bit of excess on the hem of the pants.



lroberts208 said:

Adjust the button stance, bring in the waist a bit, and cut a bit of excess on the hem of the pants.

Click to expand...

How exactly could the OP adjust the button stance?

Thanks for the great feedback everyone. Sounds like the initial feedback above is pretty accurate, especially when it comes to the length of the pants. The annoying thing is that when the SA was measuring me for the hem, I had an immediate hunch that he was leaving them a little too long. But it's hard to be sure when the hem is pinned, so I figured I would give him the benefit of the doubt.

gambit50 said:

Why do so many people have such differing shoulders?
At least I have a very good reason for myself.

Click to expand...

Yes, lopsided shoulders do seem to be a common issue with some men. I always wondered if it was from years of carrying heavy messenger-style bags on my right shoulder. But I suspect that's not the case as I've had them for as long as I know. My father bought me a MTM Samuelsohn blazer as a highschool graduation gift, and they put extra padding in the one shoulder to try and balance it out. Unfortunately, I then proceeded to lose a lot of weight in university, and the blazer has hung unused for the last decade or so.

VinnyMac said:

Jacket wrist too wide.

Click to expand...

This may partially due to the fact that the sleeves have surgeon's cuffs, and the fourth button was undone when I took these photos. Should have probably done that up to reflect the fit better.