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post #16 of 25
10/17/12 at 6:13pm
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The only problem is what to say when people ask where it's from...

I don't think I've seen a noob this concerned with what other people think in the 2.5 years I've been here. Girls will think x, what do I say when people ask where y is from, what will people think, blah blah blah.

Honestly chief, if you are trying to pick up chicks, some confidence and buying these chicks drinks with that money will go much farther than an expensive blazer. Do you really think a girl gives a fuck whether you have a $800 blazer or a $300 blazer? 1, if they do, they aren't worth anybody's time, and 2, most women wouldn't know some of the highest quality brands out there.

So quit basing your life on what shallow women might like and buy what you want...shit.
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post #17 of 25
10/17/12 at 8:00pm
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Makoto Chan:

 

I'm trying to impress really hot girls.  If they don't care if my jacket is from Uniqlo or Louis Vuitton then I'll buy from Uniqlo.

 

It's not that I'm asking without a level head, it's that I'm a BEGINNER.  So please keep this in mind.  I am so beginner that I don't even know the REASON behind buying expensive clothes. 

 

-Yes, I want high quality, but I don't know what it looks like.

 

----But I only want high quality because that's what it said I should go for in my book.  If I had bought another book that said buy cheap, 100% cotton, made in Portugal, then I would be looking for that.  The book is not specific enough for me and I don't really understand the explanations of what quality looks like, as I am a newb.

 

(One thing that really confused me yesterday was that both the H&M and Banana Republic jackets were 100% wool, yet one was $150 more than the other)   

 

-Yes, as for my budget, I told you what my credit limit was, my total paycheck, and the amount in my savings.  And I don't know how important the jacket is to me.

 

----All I know is that it said in my book that a gray blazer is on the 11 essentials list.  I thought that sounded like a good idea as I could see myself wearing it every day because it would increase my level of confidence, and most of the clothes I own now are 3 years old from Uniqlo and H&M anyway, so I thought the jacket would be a nice bandage for the time being.  He gave a few suggestions of makers such as H&M and Zara for lower budgets ( high school or college students, I am assuming he's talking about?) and for higher budgets he gave suggestions like Paul Smith, Christian Dior, et al (rich people, I am assuming he's talking about?).  I don't know why he would suggest both ends of the spectrum if one end is more important than the other.  If he had said, "The bare minimum you should spend is. blah blah blah, never buy 'Made in China', and absolutely no synthetic fibers or stitching on the lapels," then I would have a bit more of a direction to take this.

 

Your suggestions I will definitely take into account.     

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post #18 of 25
10/17/12 at 9:35pm
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Originally Posted by Gray Blazer View Post

Makoto Chan:

I'm trying to impress really hot girls.  If they don't care if my jacket is from Uniqlo or Louis Vuitton then I'll buy from Uniqlo.

It's not that I'm asking without a level head, it's that I'm a BEGINNER.  So please keep this in mind.  I am so beginner that I don't even know the REASON behind buying expensive clothes. 

-Yes, I want high quality, but I don't know what it looks like.

----But I only want high quality because that's what it said I should go for in my book.  If I had bought another book that said buy cheap, 100% cotton, made in Portugal, then I would be looking for that.  The book is not specific enough for me and I don't really understand the explanations of what quality looks like, as I am a newb.

(One thing that really confused me yesterday was that both the H&M and Banana Republic jackets were 100% wool, yet one was $150 more than the other)   

-Yes, as for my budget, I told you what my credit limit was, my total paycheck, and the amount in my savings.  And I don't know how important the jacket is to me.

----All I know is that it said in my book that a gray blazer is on the 11 essentials list.  I thought that sounded like a good idea as I could see myself wearing it every day because it would increase my level of confidence, and most of the clothes I own now are 3 years old from Uniqlo and H&M anyway, so I thought the jacket would be a nice bandage for the time being.  He gave a few suggestions of makers such as H&M and Zara for lower budgets ( high school or college students, I am assuming he's talking about?) and for higher budgets he gave suggestions like Paul Smith, Christian Dior, et al (rich people, I am assuming he's talking about?).  I don't know why he would suggest both ends of the spectrum if one end is more important than the other.  If he had said, "The bare minimum you should spend is. blah blah blah, never buy 'Made in China', and absolutely no synthetic fibers or stitching on the lapels," then I would have a bit more of a direction to take this.

Your suggestions I will definitely take into account.     

You're following this book way too closely. I don't know if you've tried it already or not, but if that Howard Yount blazer fits you well, just get it. Finding jackets that fit well RTW is not easy.
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post #19 of 25
10/17/12 at 9:53pm

Surprised nobody has said it, but: don't access your savings OR use your credit card for this purchase. Spending money you either don't have or are saving is silly (especially on clothes). I spend a decent chunk of money on clothes that I don't need, but I've budgeted for it. I imagine the vast majority of the posters on here do the same. However, you came here for clothing advice, not financial advice dozingoff.gif

 

On the clothing: I'd steer clear of UNIQLO and H&M. You might not be able to tell the difference NOW, but you will next year. Going for things like LV and Gucci is almost equally stupid (come to think of it, more). Banana Republic is a happy medium on the low end. It'll last you several seasons, look good, and it won't break your bank.

 

EDIT: +1 for Howard Yount

 

Also, this is a far better list for a man working on starting his wardrobe:
http://www.styleforum.net/t/317672/list-of-bare-necessities

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post #20 of 25
10/17/12 at 10:00pm
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You're following this book way too closely. I don't know if you've tried it already or not, but if that Howard Yount blazer fits you well, just get it. Finding jackets that fit well RTW is not easy.

 

Yes.  You have your own style and sense of what you like, if you like something, get it.  One of my favorite quotes is "I don't give a damn what others think of me, I care what I think of me."  For me, this is partially true.  Sure I do care a little bit about what opinions are formed about me, but at the end of the day you only have to answer to one person: you.  My previous comment about H&M stems from a poor quality blazer I once bought from them a while ago, but at that time I had no clue what I was looking for.  So I am inclined to steer clear of them, but I haven't been back in a while so I don't know if things have changed.

 

Read your book and the things we have to offer here, but don't get so caught up in conforming to what everyone else tells you to do.  If everyone followed strict guidelines to a T then there would be no individuality, no uniqueness in our styles.  Fit is a huge part of how good you will look, so I echo what Liquidus said.  Someone can buy the most expensive Armani suit and still look like s*** because it doesn't fit right.   

 

And just because you seem to be making a big deal out of it, for the women, in my experience it is your personality and how well you communicate that ultimately shines through and is the deciding factor.  How you dress (again, I emphasize clothes that fit well) will catch eyes initially, but after that it's how you actually interact.  There is a Lifestyle section of the forum you might want to check out for this, I haven't looked myself, but I imagine you might find some insight there.

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post #21 of 25
10/17/12 at 10:37pm
Most people, men or women, can't tell what brand your clothes are unless they have a huge tacky logo on them. More to the point, most people don't care if you're wearing Armani or something from a bargain suit store. What matters is that the clothes fit you well (in both size and styling), that's something people will notice. The most compliments I've had for my clothes have been for a cheap Korean suit (that happens to fit me extremely well) and even cheaper thrift store finds (not high end brands either but unusual fabrics). Nice shoes (leather dress shoes that is) are probably the only things where the expensive ones get noticed more due to their more elegant design and nicer materials.

I really like UNIQLO denim personally and do like many things from H&M as well. Just not the suits or jackets from either, mainly because UNIQLO's are a bit boring and H&M's are way too short and low quality.

But seriously, you're more likely to impress hot girls by being good looking, funny and confident than by wearing the outfit you mentioned. If that's you in the avatar pic, I'd suggest losing the goatee.
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post #22 of 25
10/18/12 at 4:54am
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But seriously, you're more likely to impress hot girls by being good looking, funny and confident than by wearing the outfit you mentioned. If that's you in the avatar pic, I'd suggest losing the goatee.

 

This.

 

Sure, dress nice, and it can add a layer of confidence, but what happens when you take it off? (Because that's why we're trying to impress hot chicks, right? ;) ) Confidence = gone? What will these hot chicks think then?

 

I would say a well-fitting jacket/blazer from H&M on a freshly shaven, funny, confident, yet humble young man will contriturate* the goatee'd, passive, shy guy in an expensive Italian jacket/blazer. Let's not forget the H&M guy will have money left over to buy drinks.

 

Of course, balance your budget wisely as well.

 

*destroy, pulverize, etc...

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post #23 of 25
10/18/12 at 5:28am
Vox is back?
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post #24 of 25
10/18/12 at 6:00am
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I'm trying to impress really hot girls.  If they don't care if my jacket is from Uniqlo or Louis Vuitton then I'll buy from Uniqlo.
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This attitude is so pathetic, I can't even expel the effort to try to help you.
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post #25 of 25
10/18/12 at 7:53am
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I'm pretty sure I can't lose the goatee as I am balding.  The hat covers a whole new world.  However, I do not wear that hat so much anymore and just shave my head as close as I can get without using a razor.  I think the goatee prevents me from looking like an alien or diseased hospital patient.  But if you guys seriously think I don't need it, that is a great opinion.  Respect, as I have never heard that before.

 

I understand what you guys say about being charming and confident when it comes to attracting women, but I always like to go that extra step.  I prefer my "Wow"s to come in pairs.  "WowWow!"

 

I also understand what you guys say about budget.  I just bought a new suit recently that killed me, and it's gonna take 2 months to recover.  However, the rest of my wardrobe is complete shit, and I need to do something about it.  I feel like a clown walking around wearing the same cheap stuff all the time that I bought on an H&M spree 3 years ago.  The book says that I need some quality articles of clothing to combat my clown feelings.  I think this will affect my confidence as well.

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