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post #31 of 42
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Originally Posted by codeman92190 View Post

Why is that ridiculous? While I will admit that there are situations where it may become necessary or acceptable, what is so hard about keeping your outfit intact throughout the day? To me, the type of mentality that suggests taking off one's jacket the moment it becomes convenient is the same that has no qualms about unbuttoning the top shirt button and loosening a tie without an overriding need to do so. 

You seem like an arch-conservative old git. You'll fit right in here. smile.gif
post #32 of 42
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Originally Posted by StumpjumperE View Post

My 'rule' is that it's sort of ridiculous to always leave my jacket on.

Err...ok, putting aside that this makes no sense whatsoever, if that's your opinion you can go crow about in the 'Non-Rule Rules' thread. This thread is about rules that you think should go away. There's not really a rule about keeping your jacket on at all times in the office, even though I do it personally, and there's certainly no rule about not wearing it all the time. The rule is that you shouldn't ever wear a tie without a jacket as a part of your total outfit when leaving the house. Basically, don't go to a wedding or funeral or something wearing just a tie with no jacket. So your post is off-topic as well as wrong.
post #33 of 42
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Originally Posted by codeman92190 View Post

I mean no offence to the OP, but this thread is a horrible idea, in my opinion. The last thing that we need to do here is suggest MORE rules to break than we already do. As a sartorial society, I think we have strayed so far from a solid foundation of dress that now we just have every person doing what ever the hell they want. Some people may see this as an expression of individuality, but when everybody does it, you no longer look like an individual, you just look as poorly dressed as everyone else in the room.

Calm down there, chief.  If you don't like the thread dont post in it.

Secondly, style is not about a set of "rules" to everyone.  Some folks express themselves through their clothing, some don't.


Edited by Frankie22 - 10/11/12 at 7:46pm
post #34 of 42
The rule that says there are rules for dressing.
post #35 of 42
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Originally Posted by Prince of Paisley View Post

The rule that says there are rules for dressing.

 

This ^^^^^^^

post #36 of 42
Some people preach about matching navy suits with black shoes as though it were a rule. Clearly it's not. Good principle for some London CBD types but it's not a rule for most.
post #37 of 42
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Originally Posted by imolazhp_ci View Post

there is no occasion formal enough to warrant wearing a black suit. ever. if it's black tie, wear a tux.
the ONLY place an exception to this is widely adopted, is among lawyers, so it makes sense you feel that way.


It's accepted among poorly dressed lawyers.
post #38 of 42
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Originally Posted by zackhyde View Post

I'll start:

Oxford-type shoes are the only suitable choice for a conservative business dress/ workplace environment.  Wrong.  I have been wearing boots with suits as a lawyer in  a big firm, more and more, over the past year.  Boots work really well with suits and are liked by the few people who notice. 

 

Other possible rules that should be thrown out:

Black suits are only for funerals.  Wrong.  I wear a black suit to work about 1 out of every 30 days. It's a nice part of the mix.

 

What other rules should be tossed?

 

Do you happen to live in Texas where Cowboy boots is CBD?

post #39 of 42
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Originally Posted by chogall View Post

 

Do you happen to live in Texas where Cowboy boots is CBD?


I wish so badly that I could refute this...but the impression I've gotten is that wearing cowboy boots with CBD will make you quirky...but also fall well inside the realms of acceptable. Not sure how it would fly in Houston, but San Antonio and Dallas, I think, would be ok with it.

post #40 of 42
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

That fashion designers can dress ridiculously. That rule needs to be thrown out.

They have to do that, so that you know they're fashion designers. So they can shout, "Look at me!!....LOOK AT ME!!".

The whole idea of a catwalk show is to do the most outlandish, ridiculous and impractical garments possible. It gets the paparazzi snapping and grabs the public's attention.
Edited by MikeDT - 10/12/12 at 12:03am
post #41 of 42
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Originally Posted by Frankie22 View Post

Calm down there, chief.  If you don't like the thread dont post in it.

Secondly, style is not about a set of "rules" to everyone.  Some folks express themselves through their clothing, some don't.

 

Well like I said in the beginning: my distaste for this thread in no way reflects my opinion of its starter, and while calling it a "horrible idea" may have been a bit dramatic, I still maintain that  forming a collection of more rules to break when no one follows the rules in the first place is detrimental to fostering a well dressed society. Secondly, I acknowledge that style is not about "rules" for everyone, and if this were a discussion in SW&D I wouldn't be taking any issue with it, because that is the route that they have chosen to follow in regards to their dress. Being that this is a forum dedicated to tailored clothing and suits, however, I think that one has to acknowledge that there is a difference. Whether you wear them for work or for pleasure (as I do), you have to accept that a suit is a uniform. It is rooted in a history and a culture, and when a person chooses to put one on, he is associating himself with all that that entails. To put on a tailored jacket with no regard for the proper way to wear it, in my opinion, does a disservice to the culture that has established those practices. In no way am I saying that individuality and expression cannot happen, nor would I suggest that rules cannot be broken. Rather, what I'm trying to impart is that for individual expression to have any real meaning, it has to start at the foundation of "rules" and inch outward. My main concern is that the majority of the people who will come to this thread (including myself, by the way) don't yet have that foundation, and they may be encouraged to disregard it.

 

Of course, this is all just my opinion, and I'm sure you had no desire to get so "serious" about it, but you called me "chief", so you had it coming.

 

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Originally Posted by harvey_birdman View Post


It's accepted among poorly dressed lawyers.

 

Well, it's accepted among poorly dressed...everyone, so I don't quite see why they warrant an exemption. 


Edited by codeman92190 - 10/12/12 at 11:43am
post #42 of 42
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Originally Posted by codeman92190 View Post

This is the second time that I have heard this, but as I have no association with the legal profession, I'm left curious as to why this exception is in place (assuming that it is true). Does it have to do with the traditional "court outfit" of the past, or is it something else?

i meant it's accepted/adopted by lawyers for whatever reason. i did not mean it is accepted by others as okay for lawyers. i don't know why it is so common for lawyers to wear black suits, it just seems to be more common among them than any other profession. security guards, doormen, etc. they wear black suits. you would never catch a banker or anyone in finance in a black suit. i actually don't even know if i've ever seen anyone i know in a black suit.
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