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Unfortunately, I don't think I have any pictures for you (Full disclosure: I'm a professor in my 50's, so I get away with dressing in ways that you might not. OTOH, I'm in a science department, where people usually dress like slobs.).

 

Thank you for your advice.  One of the major reasons that I feel uncomfortable with sport jackets is that even my professors only wear them while teaching.  Since I'm doing TA and RA work for them, there may be some severe consequences if I dress better than they are.  On the other hand, I'm close to 30, so hoodies also draw some criticisms from some of my peer graduate students... 

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Thank you for your advice.  One of the major reasons that I feel uncomfortable with sport jackets is that even my professors only wear them while teaching.  Since I'm doing TA and RA work for them, there may be some severe consequences if I dress better than they are.  On the other hand, I'm close to 30, so hoodies also draw some criticisms from some of my peer graduate students... 

 

I'm really curious about what school this is where people don't seem to care much about what they wear except when someone dresses better than they do - then they get noisy..

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I'm really curious about what school this is where people don't seem to care much about what they wear except when someone dresses better than they do - then they get noisy..

 

I don't know whether 'sour grape' would be an appropriate description of this.  Most pressure is from my peers, because none of them really know basics of men's style; certainly not to the level here in SF.

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If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

Where the hell did you go to school? Not on the East Coast and not to business school--that's for sure.
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I don't know whether 'sour grape' would be an appropriate description of this.  Most pressure is from my peers, because none of them really know basics of men's style; certainly not to the level here in SF.

Your peers in business school think it's so out of norms to wear a sports coat that they would actually hassle someone for doing it?
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Your peers in business school think it's so out of norms to wear a sports coat that they would actually hassle someone for doing it?

 

  Have to agree with mcbrown on this one..What kind of a Mickey Mouse bussines school is this and more importantly where!?Hicksville North Dakota?

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People won't say it on your face.  But they may jokingly say hey it is hot inside, why wearing jacket?  To be honest, when everyone else dress casual, I feel a little bit uncomfortable dressing up.  It is more of I feel self-consciousness thing...  Sorry, I didn't clarify that enough...

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I can see you guys worrying about stuff as an undergrad maybe living on or near campus, if your social life highly revolves around campus life and you are surrounded by peers that are usually dressed in t-shirt, jeans etc.,

Thing with menswear is that it's hard to look different and put some effort into dressing without A) Looking overdressed B) Looking gay or C) Looking like some goth ninja. In all 3 cases people will treat you differently. And as much as we can say "oh who cares what other people think" a 19 year old kid walking into the campus bookstore in a full suit will raise eyebrows. Or if they're wearing a full Rick Owens get up.

Whereas girls can, instead of wearing just a t-shirt and skinny jeans, wear good-looking outfits where no one would think that they're going to work/interview and while looking different from the crowd, not be cast as some weird social outcast. A 19 year old girl draped in weird 'vintage' style clothing or some nice boots or whatever the hell teenage girls wear these days- socially acceptable. They will fetch compliments from other very normal girls in society.

I'm now a sophomore in a college in California. I'm in a fraternity considered a top house on campus. As much as I love the StyleForum community, blazers for every day wear just isn't a thing for me, and most halfway decent, well-rounded college students. We have weekly fraternity meetings and we dress up for those. Our pledges dress up in their interpretations of 'dress clothes.' Walking around school in anything close to a suit and you're either going to an interview or you're a pledge at a fraternity.

Anytime I wear something that isn't incredibly casual, I dress it down. Wear an OCBD? It's either chino shorts, jeans, or I'm putting on a bomber jacket over it. Roll the sleeves up when possible.

Chinos? I'm wearing that with a t-shirt and sneakers and wearing them like jeans. An OCBD, Chinos, and sneakers is about the most 'formal' outfit I can wear without having eyebrows raised.

So I definitely know where the OP is coming from, but OP is a grad student at a business school. I would definitely wear a cord blazer to class if I'm a grad student because my social life does not revolve around campus as much as it did. The cord blazer is definitely an option paired with jeans. If you're uncomfortable, wear it with some semi-beat up jeans, and any halfway decent t-shirt (I recommend a more muted color. Grey works. Say no to bleachy starched white t-shirts), maybe even a graphic t-shirt if it can be 'dressed up.' Hell, make sure you are wearing a backpack to class to dress your blazer down even more. I have an unstructured blazer that I've recently started introducing into my wardrobe. I never wear oxfords + chinos/trousers with it unless I'm supposed to dress up.
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I can see you guys worrying about stuff as an undergrad maybe living on or near campus, if your social life highly revolves around campus life and you are surrounded by peers that are usually dressed in t-shirt, jeans etc.,
Thing with menswear is that it's hard to look different and put some effort into dressing without A) Looking overdressed B) Looking gay or C) Looking like some goth ninja. In all 3 cases people will treat you differently. And as much as we can say "oh who cares what other people think" a 19 year old kid walking into the campus bookstore in a full suit will raise eyebrows. Or if they're wearing a full Rick Owens get up.
Whereas girls can, instead of wearing just a t-shirt and skinny jeans, wear good-looking outfits where no one would think that they're going to work/interview and while looking different from the crowd, not be cast as some weird social outcast. A 19 year old girl draped in weird 'vintage' style clothing or some nice boots or whatever the hell teenage girls wear these days- socially acceptable. They will fetch compliments from other very normal girls in society.
I'm now a sophomore in a college in California. I'm in a fraternity considered a top house on campus. As much as I love the StyleForum community, blazers for every day wear just isn't a thing for me, and most halfway decent, well-rounded college students. We have weekly fraternity meetings and we dress up for those. Our pledges dress up in their interpretations of 'dress clothes.' Walking around school in anything close to a suit and you're either going to an interview or you're a pledge at a fraternity.
Anytime I wear something that isn't incredibly casual, I dress it down. Wear an OCBD? It's either chino shorts, jeans, or I'm putting on a bomber jacket over it. Roll the sleeves up when possible.
Chinos? I'm wearing that with a t-shirt and sneakers and wearing them like jeans. An OCBD, Chinos, and sneakers is about the most 'formal' outfit I can wear without having eyebrows raised.
So I definitely know where the OP is coming from, but OP is a grad student at a business school. I would definitely wear a cord blazer to class if I'm a grad student because my social life does not revolve around campus as much as it did. The cord blazer is definitely an option paired with jeans. If you're uncomfortable, wear it with some semi-beat up jeans, and any halfway decent t-shirt (I recommend a more muted color. Grey works. Say no to bleachy starched white t-shirts), maybe even a graphic t-shirt if it can be 'dressed up.' Hell, make sure you are wearing a backpack to class to dress your blazer down even more. I have an unstructured blazer that I've recently started introducing into my wardrobe. I never wear oxfords + chinos/trousers with it unless I'm supposed to dress up.

I'm the same as you except University of Arizona. I once wore a white shirt (open collared, sleeves down, untucked) with jeans like a "clubbing uniform" during the day time...and that got a lot more attention than I expected. It wasn't negative attention but people definitely saw it as different and "dressed up."

post #40 of 52

You can wear what you like in campus

but in case u want a less formal look but not too casual,

try matching jeans with a shirt (without tie for sure!)

post #41 of 52
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Originally Posted by lemmywinks View Post

I can see you guys worrying about stuff as an undergrad maybe living on or near campus, if your social life highly revolves around campus life and you are surrounded by peers that are usually dressed in t-shirt, jeans etc.,
Thing with menswear is that it's hard to look different and put some effort into dressing without A) Looking overdressed B) Looking gay or C) Looking like some goth ninja. In all 3 cases people will treat you differently. And as much as we can say "oh who cares what other people think" a 19 year old kid walking into the campus bookstore in a full suit will raise eyebrows. Or if they're wearing a full Rick Owens get up.
Whereas girls can, instead of wearing just a t-shirt and skinny jeans, wear good-looking outfits where no one would think that they're going to work/interview and while looking different from the crowd, not be cast as some weird social outcast. A 19 year old girl draped in weird 'vintage' style clothing or some nice boots or whatever the hell teenage girls wear these days- socially acceptable. They will fetch compliments from other very normal girls in society.

 

"Full suit"? Stop with the straw man arguments. Has anyone here said undergrads should walk around in full suits?

 

Second being worried about "looking gay" is kind of lame, and maybe a little bigoted. I know you're a kid, but grow up.  And also ask yourself, if anyone is ribbing you about looking gay, what kind of person are they?  And also are they male or female?

 

 

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People won't say it on your face.  But they may jokingly say hey it is hot inside, why wearing jacket?  To be honest, when everyone else dress casual, I feel a little bit uncomfortable dressing up.  It is more of I feel self-consciousness thing...  Sorry, I didn't clarify that enough...

 

 

You need to stop taking your own insecurities and imagining other people are projecting them onto you. Maybe they care, maybe they don't. Get some confidence. Dressing a little nicer than average is not a big deal.

 

And also be more precise: are your schoolmates actually commenting on your clothes or not?  

post #42 of 52
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Second being worried about "looking gay" is kind of lame, and maybe a little bigoted. I know you're a kid, but grow up.  And also ask yourself, if anyone is ribbing you about looking gay, what kind of person are they?  And also are they male or female?

When I said 'looking gay' I meant something like the outfits you might see on lookbook

http://lookbook.nu/top

and not wearing well tailored clothing or wearing a floral pocket square.

Back to OP... Cord Jacket works, Barbour jackets should also work. Also look at a Harrington Jacket. Can easily be worn with t-shirt, sweaters, button ups, jeans and khakis, works as a pseudo-blazer in a pinch. Maybe a thicker shawl collared cardigan or something from SNS Herning.
post #43 of 52
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Thing with menswear is that it's hard to look different and put some effort into dressing without A) Looking overdressed B) Looking gay or C) Looking like some goth ninja.

Yes, I hate this. I am always being mistaken for a ninja.
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Where the hell did you go to school? Not on the East Coast and not to business school--that's for sure.

 

I'm Canadian. So maybe I can caveat my post by stating the obvious--if you're on the East Coast of the States (in the Gatsby sense), then you can wear a bow-tie to class and that'll be okay. But I've been through Ivey, Rotman, and Queen's (which is old-money central), and sportcoats just aren't done. Cheap suits? Yes. Loud, cheap ties? Sure. But anything like the guys on the WAYWN thread? Never.

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Queen's (which is old-money central), and sportcoats just aren't done. Cheap suits? Yes. Loud, cheap ties? Sure. But anything like the guys on the WAYWN thread? Never.

 

Ahem. Mind you I am faculty at Queen's, and one of the only ones I've come across who dresses in any way interestingly, but I do know a few well-dressed grad students, both male and female, including one on this forum. Amongst undergrads, people who pay any attention to their clothes at all are rare, and there is an overwhelming preponderance of those horrible Queen's jackets. 

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