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post #16 of 52
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Originally Posted by Stilig View Post

What's wrong with a solid grey or blue blazer? I'm a university student myself, and I rarely get anything other than compliments about my clothes even though I wear jackets and ties quite often. 

 

 

There is nothing wrong with that, but too formal for college campus on the other side of the Atlantic these days, especially in post- Facebook IPO era.

post #17 of 52
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If the metal buttons on a blazer make it look too formal to you, you could replace them with MOP.
More generally, any jacket (sports coat) made from a heavily textured fabric like tweed will be inherently more casual. I have a jacket made from blue barleycorn fabric, an air force blue jacket with a herringbone pattern, and a cream jacket of dupioni silk. All are quite casual, so there are many options besides tweed. Also, on corduroy jackets, the wider the wale, the more casual the jacket. So a navy microwale jacket could be rather formal, whereas a brown wide wale jacket (which I also have) would be quite casual.
Another solution to your conundrum might be a finely knit cardigan. I've been looking for another casual jacket, textured and unstructured (so an unstructured sports coat is another option for you), without success, so I recently bought a navy blue, shawl collared cardigan, which I intend to wear as a very casual blazer-equivalent. It does help that I can get away with more than you, since I'm a little older than you...

 

Thank you so much for your tips!  I find them very enlightening!  

 

I'm a graduate student in my late 20s.  Do you mind post some pictures or product webpages you purchased from?  Thank you!  

post #18 of 52
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You are, presumably, a college student?
and not a kid in kindergarten?
why don't you look around and just wear what other college kids wear?

 

Hi, my question seems to have confused you.... I'm just trying to dress smart without being too conspicuous.


Edited by ircfas133 - 10/8/12 at 3:19pm
post #19 of 52
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This is definitely more casual that the last one.  It could be acceptable, but still too "perfect" and thus not "low-key" profile.

 I'm talking about college campus in midwest region like Chicago, say for example, University of Chicago.  I don't know about schools in New England, but here people dress casual (not as casual as in California).  I can wear a blazer or cord jacket to classes, but usually only European international students would dress like that.  Otherwise, people are going to ask one of the following four questions:

1) Hey, why you are so dressed up, man?  
2) Are you going to a club tonight?  
3) Are you going for a date?
4) Are you going for a pre-interview dinner tonight?  (I'm in  a b-school)

Sorry that I didn't specify my specific circumstances...  My goal is too sharp like you gentlemen, but with less high profile (more subtle).  Any suggestions?  Thanks!

I'm also at a college campus in the midwest region, and I can't imagine someone in that second jacket being called out on it. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of my undergrads walk in like that (two today with cord SC). I definitely wouldn't be surprised by grad students wearing that. Perhaps our business school is even more dressed down, but if they are I haven't noticed.

Still, it sounds like what you want is a completely unstructured SC in cotton or something similar. I know that I need to get something like that, but at the moment I can't help you with specifics. You might get more, or at least different, info on the SWD side of SF. Worth checking out anyway.
post #20 of 52

If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

 

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

 

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

 

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

 

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

post #21 of 52
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If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

 

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

 

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

 

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

 

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

 

Your school sounds lame.  Hated it? Tone it down? A sports coat?  I'm speaking from perspective of good east coast schools - if a sports coat is too much and your school isn't, say, on the beach somewhere, transfer.

post #22 of 52
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If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

 

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

 

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

 

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

 

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

 

 

The Cucinelli brand you suggest looks great, just about what I want.  But it is so out of my price range....  Any similar brand like this?  

 

At my school, no one is going to stop you if you dress like that.  But you can see from their eyes that you are standing out...  

post #23 of 52

What's wrong with Banana Republic or Gap? For a student like you they do offer blazers and sports coats within the student budget. Cucinelli is just too pricey for you right now.

post #24 of 52

I've visited quite a few campuses over the past few months (west coast).  I've seen people dressed up in full suits and people in basketball shorts and sandals.  Apparently, after the first few weeks, people ditch the business casual recommendation, but there are always interviews and presentations.  I don't think you'll look out of place wearing a SC.

 

With that said, if you want to go more casual, you can always get a nicer wool jacket/coat but skip the hoodie, excessive details or gaudy pockets, etc

http://www1.macys.com/shop/product/michael-kors-jacket-mercer-fly-front-field-coats?ID=706938&CategoryID=3763&LinkType=#fn=sp%3D2%26spc%3D683%26ruleId%3D60%26slotId%3D200

(just a quick, lazy example)

 

You can also grab a sports coat in a more causal material, as others have mentioned.  Something along these lines, but with fewer pockets, maybe?

http://www.lechateau.com/style/browse/productDetailWithPicker.jsp?productId=285045&selectedColor=Grey&selectedSize=S&storeId=334

 

Tonylamer never specified if his experience pertained to undergrad or business school.  It may be weird to dress up for your Econ 101 lecture where everyone in there is 19 years old, rushing a frat, and hung over.  Probably not as weird in business school where the average age is 28 years old and average work experience is 5+ years.  I've got more work clothes than casual clothes and I'd imagine that holds true for a lot of your peers as well.  Good luck.

post #25 of 52
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At my school, no one is going to stop you if you dress like that.  But you can see from their eyes that you are standing out...  

 

And that's a problem?  If you want to look like everyone else, and they're all slobs, go ahead. I'd rather stand out.

 

Me, I don't believe in going over the top - a full suit and tie when everyone else is in hoodies is not good. But a patterned dress shirt or OCBD or button-front sport shirt, casual blazer and chinos (or dark jeans) plus, say, loafers is not over-the-top.  


Edited by jt10000 - 10/9/12 at 4:43am
post #26 of 52
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And that's a problem?  If you want to look like everyone else, and they're all slobs, go ahead. I'd rather stand out.

Me, I don't believe in going over the top - a full suit and tie when everyone else is in hoodies is not good. But a patterned dress shirt or OCBD or button-front sport shirt, casual blazer and chinos (or dark jeans) plus, say, loafers is not over-the-top.  

To their eyes, the only difference between what you recommend and a suit and tie is the tie.
post #27 of 52
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Originally Posted by tonylamer View Post

If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

I've never experienced anything like this. So long as you're comfortable and not doing anything over the top, my advice would be to ignore people who don't know better "calling you out", and not allow them to influence your dress in any way. Perhaps you are making them self concious?
post #28 of 52
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Originally Posted by tonylamer View Post

If you wear a sportcoat on a college campus--and you're a student--you'll get called on it. I've worn every combination of structured/unstructured jacket with an open collar and jeans (just so I wouldn't look too formal), and people called me on it constantly. The people I didn't know too well hated it, and my friends told me to tone it down. Keep in mind that I had no money, so all of the jackets were thrift finds that I've since tossed. But even a thrifted Banana Republic cord. jacket was too much for most people. I wore a Norman Hilton 1/4-lined tweed jacket one day, and someone told me to take it off because I was making everyone else look underdressed. I'd paid $5 for it, and it was 28 years old. I was wearing it with jeans and a pair of Cole Haan corrected-grain shoes. Far from the WAYWN thread.

Every single time that I wore a tie, people would ask if I had an interview.

I once wore a sportcoat and a pair of pants (again, Banana Republic) to dinner, and a kid on the street stopped me and gave me shit about wearing a suit. Keep in mind that this was a Canadian college town--extremely WASPy--and that I was in a professional graduate programme.

If you're going to wear a jacket to class, don't dress it up. Your shirt or pants should be wrinkled, you shouldn't even think about accessories, and your shoes should be a bit scuffed. That'll look good without making you look like an ass--i.e. the guy who comes to class in a tailored suit.

If you have the money for it, buy two Cucinelli sportcoats (not retail) that you can wear with jeans, and go that route. They make a great unstructured jacket, and they generally stay away from worsted wool, so they can be worn with jeans. They also look cool without being too dressy.

This may be true for an undergrad, but not for a graduate student, and certainly not a b-school student.

And if you're committed to your style people will stop "calling you out" eventually - they may permanently mark you as "different", but when did college life become about conformity? One of my closest friends spent all of college dressing like someone out of a steampunk movie - full-length trench coat, waistcoat, tie, pocket watch, fedora, round thin-rimmed glasses, etc. Every day. He wasn't an outcast for it, he was one of the most popular people on campus. Because he had a memorable look that fit his personality, and he was committed to being himself to the fullest, all day, every day.
post #29 of 52
Check out a Barbour Beaufort or Bedale rather than a sport coat. Probably more versatile.
post #30 of 52
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Thank you so much for your tips!  I find them very enlightening!  

I'm a graduate student in my late 20s.  Do you mind post some pictures or product webpages you purchased from?  Thank you!  

Unfortunately, I don't think I have any pictures for you (Full disclosure: I'm a professor in my 50's, so I get away with dressing in ways that you might not. OTOH, I'm in a science department, where people usually dress like slobs.).
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