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post #8626 of 14958
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Originally Posted by GeneralNegative View Post
 

Do any of you know where there's a download link for the song played during the SS16 show? I can't seem to find one anywhere.

https://soundcloud.com/yvessaintlaurent/like-harry-dean-stanton-by-swimmers

 

I wish I could borrow Hedi's ipod for a day, he has the best headbanging shit to listen too

I don't speak French but the music for FW15 Menswear was so great, I can't wait for FW16 I need more knitwear

post #8627 of 14958

The best song used by Hedi was The World was a Mess But his Hair was Perfect by the Rakes during Dior`s spring/summer 06 show.

post #8628 of 14958
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The best song used by Hedi was The World was a Mess But his Hair was Perfect by the Rakes during Dior`s spring/summer 06 show.


I'm partial to that Corners song used in the FW15 campaign video. Would love access to the instore playlists.

 

Also. I wish Hedi would go all the way with his rock and roll antagonism, and riff on the LA hardcore scene or something. Play some converge instead of the safe indie rock again and again. Imagine the critics.

post #8629 of 14958
@Prudy coat is absolute fire! Looks great
post #8630 of 14958
I'm looking forward to Hedi's deep house inspired collections
post #8631 of 14958

Both @Prudy and @creepinatshirt killer outfits!

post #8632 of 14958

So if Hedi does end up at Chanel, would he be doing menswear (and possibly women's RTW), while Karl does Haute Couture? I remember Karl saying his contract at Chanel was for life...

 

I'll probably get that issue of V this week, with Hedi on the cover.

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Does Chanel currently do menswear?
post #8634 of 14958
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Does Chanel currently do menswear?

No, but there'd be opportunity there since menswear is growing statistically. The cost of entry must be steep, however.
post #8635 of 14958

Chanel does do Menswear but they are extremely limited and I believe they only do about 50 pieces per season and are usually only sold to high profile clients. There are a lot of Chanel mens pieces that end up on consignment sites and if you look at any of the runway items, there is plenty of mens RTW. I think this is where Hedi would ultimately love to end up, especially as he has been outspoken about his distaste for the huge commercialization of luxury fashion. 

post #8636 of 14958
yup, like @scanner said. my guess is that karl was like hedi it's time for you to step up and inherit the empire, i'm gonna kick it soon, it's now or never, and you're the only one i really want to do it.

hence hedi leaving ysl after only three years, when he's just properly beginning to define his vision. i mean what ELSE could possibly make him leave pretty much the best job in the world? we know he doesn't give a fuck about anyone but karl in the fashion establishment.

let's face it, reinventing chanel is probably the only thing in fashion that's still a challenge for hedi. i mean how exactly would any of us redesign chanel as a brand, create a proper menswear line, make the women's line fresher, redo the stores, etc? i mean really rethink it from the ground up like he did with ysl? it's interesting, not easy, requires someone like hedi who thinks way bigger than just fashion week.

let's put all that in perspective. hedi's effectively taken ysl from a few hundred million $ to a billion $ business or thereabouts. there's no other designer that's done anything remotely like that, wang fucked balenciaga, raf killed dior, almost everyone else has been a disaster for their various houses. the opportunity at chanel is of the same magnitude, in many ways it's a brand just like the old ysl: right now the clothes are effectively subsidized by cosmetics and handbags, and the brand while it's prestigious is faded, tired, it doesn't glitter like it used to. big job, right?

it's going to be deeply satisfying to see fashion editors and bloggers lose their minds over all the above. and the upside for us if as I've heard over and over again hedi is indeed going to chanel is this: at least he'll be probably be fucking designing for life like karl instead of quitting over and over again.
Edited by neonrider - 1/27/16 at 12:49pm
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it's hard for me to imagine chanel ever being cool and something I would buy into. though the history of the brand suggests that hedi's vision might be more aligned with the house of interwar paris than the pearls and quilts it's associated with today--very interested to see how this may pan out.

 

a manager instore today was very confident that he was gone, based on the absolute refusal on kering's part to address anything with staff. he said that they were instructed to avoid the question and just to say 'did you hear about the show on the 10th?'

 

a few SAs I have spoken to recently, both in NY and London have said that they would quit shortly after FW16 appears in stores.

 

estimates within kering say that 40% (this seems high to me, but whatever) of SLP buyers are only interested in slimane. a departure will surely be a fucking nightmare for them. that they know this, hopefully, means that they should keep some of his designed stuff around for some time--good for us and my bank account this year. 

 

that Chanel is privately owned by those two billionaire brothers makes this all the more likely.

post #8638 of 14958
indeed, @therattler. you said "it's hard for me to imagine chanel being cool...etc". that's exactly how we all felt about pilati ysl, right? so i think that's exactly the challenge and opportunity at chanel. in that sense hedi's kind of like steve jobs, he picks stuff that other people think is hopeless (a phone with no buttons, etc).

from what i've heard kering was pretty desperate to get him to stay and threw the farm at him. which is another reason i think it's basically karl. who else could hedi NOT say no to? at ysl, half the staff is going to quit, buyers will desert the brand, their growth will suddenly fall. they're pretty fucked. if they're smart (and that's a big if) they'll keep the permanent collection totally untouched. it'll be a cash cow for them.

and yeah kering not saying anything is i think as close to a confirmation as its possible to get. they'd probably be better off just confirming it, at least that way we'd all go out and blow our yearly earnings on the last two collections smile.gif
post #8639 of 14958

I'm hoping that at the very least they keep the permanent collection in place.

 

EDIT: @neonrider sorry didn't see your post. It seems like a no-brainer to keep it in place. Unless they end up hiring somebody who wants to change the house aesthetic again, which seems like a real gamble after Hedi leaving.

post #8640 of 14958
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

indeed, @therattler. you said "it's hard for me to imagine chanel being cool...etc". that's exactly how we all felt about pilati ysl, right?

and yeah kering not saying anything is i think as close to a confirmation as its possible to get. they'd probably be better off just confirming it, at least that way we'd all go out and blow our yearly earnings on the last two collections smile.gif

 

exactly, and amen. has anyone shorted kering stocks?

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