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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

It will be interesting to see what happens. I'm kind of disappointed for selfish reasons, as I'm not finished buying the things I want, and what he's done at Saint Laurent is exactly the type of clothes I like to wear. I'm quite surprised with him having just re-launched couture and seemingly having as much freedom as possible.

What do people think of the future for Saint Laurent presuming he goes? If the brand is smart then they will keep producing all of the classic basics designed under Hedi (I'd happily continue buying this kind of thing at least, as long as it's not changed for the worse). I would presume most talented designers wouldn't be too happy to try to follow in his footsteps, and would want to put their own stamp on things. If that's the case, then if they're smart then they'd open some kind of access to order from his archive as a separate line, or at least bring back a selection of pieces from it each season.

It will also be interested to see what he does at whichever house he moves to (I presume Dior). Will it be more of the same? Either way with more options for us as consumers it can only be a good thing, assuming price points aren't too astronomical.

Would be sad to see him go, but if he goes back to Dior I'm excited. Much higher quality wise and would likely be continuing his current work with Dior as a reference again.
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Out of interest, is Dior actually that much better quality? I have a few bits and pieces left over from Hedi's time there, and generally quality seems pretty comparable, with the exception of the blazers which had a floating canvas, and the footwear which seemed sturdier. Knitwear, shirts, coats, jeans, bags, t-shirts etc all seem similar to me. In fact, it wasn't at all unusual to have little problems like buttons falling off blazers and coats with DH under Hedi, even though they were only being carefully used, which I haven't had at all with Saint Laurent. Has quality been improved at DH recently?

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ooh my god I hope heidi returns to dior...i miss those jeans he made...those legendary washes, absolutely nothing comparable in SLP thats better than dior jeans.

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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

great stuff slann.

 

 

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Originally Posted by GG Allin View Post

I can't remember, but it was totally reasonable. Send him a pm.

 

 

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Do you know how much his proxy fees are?

 

 

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this is great to know, thank you for sharing

slann- prepare your inbox!

 

Ahaha thanks guys, Got many PMs and I will definitely proxy all the stuff you like - prices outside europe are really crazy for Saint Laurent stuff. Also I got for sale a permanent collection striped sweater ( the 100% cashmere one) in size Small, if you are interested for it send me a PM ;)

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i have an extra pair of brand new ss16 destroyeds in 30 that i was going to return but i'd much rather go to a member of the forum here, you can save a couple of hundred bucks compared to us prices. let's call it $700. these are great jeans, they DON'T have the irritating extra low knee hole of the last season trash denim that never fell correctly on anyone and hit most people shins lol.

http://www.farfetch.com/uk/shopping/men/saint-laurent-distressed-slim-fit-jeans-item-11282503.aspx?storeid=9111&ffref=lp_pic_75_6_

i don't know, in my opinion the quality of all my dior stuff is waaay higher. all my dh hedi leathers have taken at this point a decade or more of abuse and many still look almost new, to the point that people comment on the quality. the raw and washed denim was way superior, much tighter and finer, thicker grade denim. the selvage hedi sourced at sl was truly remarkable denim, probably even better than dior quality, but they only made it for one season unfortunately. the suiting i think is of comparable quality. but compare the cotton on the inverted collar shirts, that was amazing, i've still rarely seen anything like it, and def not at ysl.
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post



i don't know, in my opinion the quality of all my dior stuff is waaay higher. all my dh hedi leathers have taken at this point a decade or more of abuse and many still look almost new, to the point that people comment on the quality. the raw and washed denim was way superior, much tighter and finer, thicker grade denim. the selvage hedi sourced at sl was truly remarkable denim, probably even better than dior quality, but they only made it for one season unfortunately. the suiting i think is of comparable quality. but compare the cotton on the inverted collar shirts, that was amazing, i've still rarely seen anything like it, and def not at ysl.

 

I am really interested in seeing your Dior pieces (leathers especially lol). When you have some time Neon, could you post some pics here? Or even send them to my email to write a nice article on my blog, up to you obviously. Cheers

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sure dude, they're mostly at my summer place but i think i have a few pieces i really loved around here. i'll throw up a little post when i find them!
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Really digging this suede jacket
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anyone want a proxy, I can score plenty in the EU....

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Have a friend that does business with kering.. Confirmed hedi will be stepping down.. Not sure when
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lol paulasmith that's hilarious
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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

Out of interest, is Dior actually that much better quality? I have a few bits and pieces left over from Hedi's time there, and generally quality seems pretty comparable, with the exception of the blazers which had a floating canvas, and the footwear which seemed sturdier. Knitwear, shirts, coats, jeans, bags, t-shirts etc all seem similar to me. In fact, it wasn't at all unusual to have little problems like buttons falling off blazers and coats with DH under Hedi, even though they were only being carefully used, which I haven't had at all with Saint Laurent. Has quality been improved at DH recently?

Just to give you some perspective, you've got to take into consideration that quality wise there was a steady decline within his 7 year tenure at DH (not unlike what some have already noticed at SLP). 2001-2003 stuff was incredible amazing high quality. a lot of stuff made in france. then it got a little less good every season with less permanent items made in EU/Japan up until around 06 where it got truly bad for some items (made in turkey, jewellery in thailand etc). i'm taking quality but also fit. i remember DH fans were quite upset by then end (such as they've been here with the footwear/denim tweaks) and rumours had it LVMH was responsible for such commercialism and that it played part in Hedi leaving DH.. I have no idea what the situation is like today over there as I haven't entered a Dior boutique since Hedi's final collection in 07 but from what I've heard they've been trying to market DH as a more upscale label so it could be quality has gone up.. Problem is I've seen this pattern happen twice now, Hedi sweeping the slate clean, putting high standards, only to have quality & fit decline more or less rapidly as I assume the group gets greedy once the momentum is gained..
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Intersting perspective. Dior items now are definitely marketed and quality-wise are upscale. They do a lot of MTM suiting, full canvass, MII, etc. and each season have at least a few items Made in France, usually an obscenely expensive leather. Nothing's made in Turkey anymore, although I remember that that being the case as you stated a while back for some items. Dior also makes a point of never going on sale a la Hermes, and Chanel, which keeps the brand upper tier.
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There are some points in that video that resonated with me:
- I like how "conservative" Hedi is compared to avant-garde designers
- he pulls together nice styles and makes it easy to look cool without spending hours vintage shopping
- he really pushed the shoe game/accessories up a level for the brand
- sometimes the world he creates is so immersive that I find that it is easy to lose my own self-identity
- I think it is important to pull out certain pieces and make it part of you instead of just copying the styling but very tempting to just copy because it is easy to
- there is a cool effortlessness to dressing nowadays that Hedi taps into
- he produces casual pieces using high quality materials (biggest thing that drew me to the brand and I'm sort of disappointed at the decline in quality but now I'm hopeful and excited to see the first few seasons of his new brand)
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

Intersting perspective. Dior items now are definitely marketed and quality-wise are upscale. They do a lot of MTM suiting, full canvass, MII, etc. and each season have at least a few items Made in France, usually an obscenely expensive leather. Nothing's made in Turkey anymore, although I remember that that being the case as you stated a while back for some items. Dior also makes a point of never going on sale a la Hermes, and Chanel, which keeps the brand upper tier.

 

You are right, definitely marketed as upscale but that also comes from the KVA design, I think it would really difficult to market something like distressed sneakers or denim as very upscale - even if Hedi did an incredible job at SL. Also it's true that it never goes on seasonal sales, but here in Italy we do have two Dior (both Homme and womenswear) outlets where you can get stuff for at least 40% off. Last but not least, today got a bit of time and published a quick outfit post with a photoshoot i did some months ago, I hope you will enjoy :) Have a nice start of the week guys! And fingers crossed Hedi will stay! http://lustercatcher.com/2016/01/25/outfit-post-saint-laurent-leather-biker-jacket-and-suede-boots/

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