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The Blake ones (known as the Blake 30) were only for SS 14. SS 13 and AW 13 both had no stitching visible, similar to today's London 20s but a slightly sleeker more elongated shape (nicer, but had sizing issues with massive heel slippage). Since AW 14 they have only done the London 20 as far as I'm aware (I have asked). I did see photos of the Blake 30 ones on Selfridges website last season, but I'd guess they were just using old stock photos, unless perhaps they are still in the line list available to order for wholesalers etc.

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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

The Blake ones (known as the Blake 30) were only for SS 14. SS 13 and AW 13 both had no stitching visible, similar to today's London 20s but a slightly sleeker more elongated shape (nicer, but had sizing issues with massive heel slippage). Since AW 14 they have only done the London 20 as far as I'm aware (I have asked). I did see photos of the Blake 30 ones on Selfridges website last season, but I'd guess they were just using old stock photos, unless perhaps they are still in the line list available to order for wholesalers etc.

Aw I didn't know the cropped jodhpurs were labeled as Blake before or that they had a 30mm heel. So what were the FW13 ones labeled as? I'm assuming the London 20s are Goodyear welted?
post #7983 of 14966

 

what is going on with these fits? new season looking super inconsistent.. this is like Diesel meeting Faith Connexions 

 

Not that I don't mind, it actually looks kinda comfy. 

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I don't know about the London 20s, they're just a thin sole with no visible stitching, most likely Blake construction, or maybe just glued. The original SS 13 and AW 13 ones didn't have any name; they were just called cropped jodhpur boots, and I think they were also Blake construction. I've had every style in black leather, and I prefer the Blake 30 out of all of them. All are nice though.

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Unfortunately it seems that the silk t-shirts have also been changed for AW 15. I grabbed another one from the online store, and was disappointed to find that they now have a wide band on the neck line like a regular t-shirt, rather than the more elegant finer band they had before, and also the neckline is now a far smaller, very normal neckline like you'd find on any old t-shirt, rather than the nice loose necklines that they used to have. The rest of it still fits nicely, but with those changes it just doesn't have a lot of style, and looked very normal. I knew the silk t-shirts had remained untouched for a bit too long - should have stocked up while I had the chance.

 

Also saw a new batch of 3 passant belts from late AW 15 and the loops are now closer together and I don't think they look as nice. I have like two of the old ones for different purposes, but wanted another for a special occasion, but got one off the online store and returned it as they just don't look as nice. It's strange because the AW 15 one I had from LVR was fine like the old ones, but the one from the online store that arrived several months later, but still AW 15, had the changes. I'd presume it's probably based on feedback again as the old one does get close to the belt loop on the jeans, but just looked better.

 

The constant changes are really starting to piss me off. I'm sure that to new customers they won't mind as they're still reasonably nice, just not as nice as the original designs were. 

 

My suspicion on fit is that before the fit models were tall rakes, but now they seem to be cutting for a more petite customer. Like the sudden change to the necklines last season. I went from a medium fitting me relaxed, to hardly going over my head and I wouldn't say I have a particularly big head, and shoulder seams moved way up my shoulders instead of being at the edge where they should be. 

 

And of course I don't even need to mention the wide ankles on boots. I did see some photos a member here shared with me and it looks like there's a possibility of a return to the narrower ankles (fingers crossed). 

 

More and more I'm feeling like you have to buy things the first time around before the idiots give their feedback and they start fucking around with the shapes. 

post #7986 of 14966
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Originally Posted by kpmurphy View Post
 

Thanks for this!  I've been debating between this and the black/white moto, you helped sway me towards this one.  Just ordered, anxious to give me L01 a break.

 

 

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Originally Posted by Prudy View Post

I have that jacket as well - leather is nice and as @slann01 said it looks great if you keep it simple. Studs are very cool on the lapels and the 'wing' design is unique.

Nice review!

 

 

Thanks for the appreciation guys!

 

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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post
 

Unfortunately it seems that the silk t-shirts have also been changed for AW 15. I grabbed another one from the online store, and was disappointed to find that they now have a wide band on the neck line like a regular t-shirt, rather than the more elegant finer band they had before, and also the neckline is now a far smaller, very normal neckline like you'd find on any old t-shirt, rather than the nice loose necklines that they used to have. The rest of it still fits nicely, but with those changes it just doesn't have a lot of style, and looked very normal. I knew the silk t-shirts had remained untouched for a bit too long - should have stocked up while I had the chance.

 

Also saw a new batch of 3 passant belts from late AW 15 and the loops are now closer together and I don't think they look as nice. I have like two of the old ones for different purposes, but wanted another for a special occasion, but got one off the online store and returned it as they just don't look as nice. It's strange because the AW 15 one I had from LVR was fine like the old ones, but the one from the online store that arrived several months later, but still AW 15, had the changes. I'd presume it's probably based on feedback again as the old one does get close to the belt loop on the jeans, but just looked better.

 

The constant changes are really starting to piss me off. I'm sure that to new customers they won't mind as they're still reasonably nice, just not as nice as the original designs were. 

 

My suspicion on fit is that before the fit models were tall rakes, but now they seem to be cutting for a more petite customer. Like the sudden change to the necklines last season. I went from a medium fitting me relaxed, to hardly going over my head and I wouldn't say I have a particularly big head, and shoulder seams moved way up my shoulders instead of being at the edge where they should be. 

 

And of course I don't even need to mention the wide ankles on boots. I did see some photos a member here shared with me and it looks like there's a possibility of a return to the narrower ankles (fingers crossed). 

 

More and more I'm feeling like you have to buy things the first time around before the idiots give their feedback and they start fucking around with the shapes. 

 

You are right man - constant changes is something I really wouldn't expect from a high fashion house, especially since they are always changing into the worst direction. Boots shaft is the best example.

post #7987 of 14966

Yeah and it's not like the items weren't selling as they were. I very much doubt sales have gone up as a result of any of the many changes.

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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

Yeah and it's not like the items weren't selling as they were. I very much doubt sales have gone up as a result of any of the many changes.

The price hikes as well. Seems like quality and fit are getting worse but the price continued to go up
post #7989 of 14966
Hi longtime lurker here. I recently got a pair of slp biker jeans in 29. However I'm a bit disappointed in the way they fit at the ankles, they fit very wide and sloppy over my wyatts and johdpurs even though it's my true size.
Don't know if I should get these tailored since they are so expensive. Does anyone here have any experience altering these?
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Jbidwal I can't really fault the quality on these items, just the changes to the fit and design, as is the case with the Wyatt boots and the shaft. I know I have a very high standard, but when you've experienced the old stuff you just don't want the new in some cases. It's annoying because there's so many items I want to buy, and I have the money set aside that I want to spend, but there's either no availability in some cases, or they've been altered in a bad way in others.

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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

I don't know about the London 20s, they're just a thin sole with no visible stitching, most likely Blake construction, or maybe just glued. The original SS 13 and AW 13 ones didn't have any name; they were just called cropped jodhpur boots, and I think they were also Blake construction. I've had every style in black leather, and I prefer the Blake 30 out of all of them. All are nice though.

You really know your SLP. Thanks a lot.
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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post
 

The Blake ones (known as the Blake 30) were only for SS 14. SS 13 and AW 13 both had no stitching visible, similar to today's London 20s but a slightly sleeker more elongated shape (nicer, but had sizing issues with massive heel slippage). Since AW 14 they have only done the London 20 as far as I'm aware (I have asked). I did see photos of the Blake 30 ones on Selfridges website last season, but I'd guess they were just using old stock photos, unless perhaps they are still in the line list available to order for wholesalers etc.


Even on the London 20s from FW15 I had to size down due to heel slippage. The Blake 30 I had previously in my true size were unwearable.

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Maybe that explains why my size 10 feet can slip into my size 41..
post #7994 of 14966

Luckily, I've been fine with both the Blake 30 and the London 20 versions and have been able to take my true size (45) in both, and I have rather skinny narrow feet. There is some slight slippage but not a problem, and it reduces once the sole breaks in. The original SS 13 and AW 13 versions however were ridiculous; I had to go all the way down to a 43.5 for them to be wearable because they were so loose in the mid foot. They were pretty beautiful though with the elongated shape, especially in the very soft leather used on the SS 13 ones. The cropped jodhpur is one of my favourite ever shoes - the way they look with a really skinny black jean cropped just above it is amazing, and I've had more compliments on them than on any other shoe. I hope that they do them on the Hedi 30 last at some stage as I think the thick sole and chunkier shape would work great on them for a bit of a change.

 

Speaking of the cropped boots, I also think the cropped Chelsea looks very promising. No black though unfortunately from what I hear. Hopefully next time around.

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Originally Posted by kieran84 View Post

Jbidwal I can't really fault the quality on these items, just the changes to the fit and design, as is the case with the Wyatt boots and the shaft. I know I have a very high standard, but when you've experienced the old stuff you just don't want the new in some cases. It's annoying because there's so many items I want to buy, and I have the money set aside that I want to spend, but there's either no availability in some cases, or they've been altered in a bad way in others.

I think most of the new denim is lazy. The rips lack detail and attention to detail like the older pairs and what they show in sample pics. Take the raw hems for this season. They don't like anything like the sample pics. Same for boots. Adding seams to make production easier or cheaper.
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