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post #7111 of 15042
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Originally Posted by ohyehhh View Post


Hey dude, didn't you buy the leather high hedi jodhpurs? If so do you have any more pictures of how they've broken in/changed in hue etc... I wanted to perhaps buy them myself to wear with distressed black jeans but I found thr boots in leather looked too .classy. for that

Will post a few pics today. I'd say they are definitely on the classier side (IMO), though, but could make an interesting counterpoint to the aggressiveness of distressed jeans.

post #7112 of 15042
Montaigne is the worst imo.. they only seem to cater to Asian tourists.. an SA actually abandoned me mid-transaction to go attend a group who'd just entered the store.. I was really floored.. when I went back to him, he barked to another SA to attend me, however unfortunately she didn't seem to know anything and had to constantly ask yet another SA for info (i was just asking where the new season items were placed) the other SA just rudely pointed his finger in different directions and left. Keep in mind I'm a day one client there, however the staff seems to constantly shift. I'm now avoiding Montaigne like the plague. The other two locations (Saint honoré & Grenelle) have impeccable service though.. About the over exposure thing.. SLP is being victim of it's success.. being very hyped by sometimes questionable celebrities (bieber, styles etc). I'm seeing a similar pattern to Hedi's DH era... the frenzy and subsequent downfall of the design and quality. We can already notice a big shift on certain items (footwear, denim). I'm hoping I'm wrong here and that Hedi won't concede to the pressures above to make the brand "grow" in the wrong direction..
post #7113 of 15042

why can't they open in australia :(

post #7114 of 15042
Couldn't have said it better myself. The whole biker w/o a bike rebel w/a trust fund look is played out and the ss16 Cobain show appears to represent a change of direction.

I don't see any appeal in the biker leathers, esp. when you can get into ccp etc for the same price (in usd at least).
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Originally Posted by Fuuma View Post

Sales went up from the very first season so stores were never "deserted", still I'd agree exposure has increased...

I must say that overexposure has make me unable to like beige suede boots worn with black jeans or leather jackets and I used to do that myself from time to time.
post #7115 of 15042
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Originally Posted by scanner View Post
 

Also, in LA at least, most of the stores are pretty bare.. Not empty or deserted but you may see at most 5-10 people at a time. If you see waves of people, they're not usually there to shop. In fact I hardly ever see people actually buy anything. 


this is true....both the Beverly Center and the Rodea Dr store (which also has the largest selection of items of any SLP boutique in the US) there have been at most 10 people IF that, usually I am, along with my wife the only one there and every SA is there to help, kinda nice, then again, it could be that I mostly go in at random times during the day/week and am sure that on weekends it may be a lot busier, but even then, at most you'll see 10 people or so and like u said, the bigger groups arent there to shop

post #7116 of 15042
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Originally Posted by scanner View Post

From what I know, the stores on Rodeo at least have actually stopped ordering anything in nut / ochre color way, or hyped items like jodhpurs and chelseas, biker jeans, etc, specifically because they get about 50 calls a day asking if any are in stock. Some of the management has also expressed that Hedi and some of the higher ups have been concerned with only certain items selling in boatloads and diluting the brand. If you go there now, there are a lot of new items that I've never seen any of the other stores or even ysl.com carry that the SA's are told to try to sell over the bigger selling items, which makes sense anyway, don't want most of your items to the sale route. On a side note, the fully lined wool DH style zipper/hood jacket in particular is one of the coolest sleeper items and I've never seen it anywhere else but Rodeo. 

That's odd. I went to the Sloane St store a few weeks ago and told the guy I was just browsing and don't really wear the SLP style and he roped me into trying on the various "iconic" pieces like the nut Wyatt boots, teddy jacket, double rider "just for fun".

Was also surprised that the jackets fit pretty decently since I don't have a SLP build. Seems like it's working if they're tweaking the patterns to broaden the audience.
post #7117 of 15042
the brand is a victim of it's own hype, the bandwagon's in full effect (as the last few comments demonstrate. comparing ccp to sl, which are totally different things? pretending there are no iconic sl pieces? lol), overexposure in all the wrong places is bringing out reverse snobbery. but that's a good problem to have. let's see if sl can respond to it. i'm sure bieber in head to toe sl makes hedi cry a little bit inside.

most of the really good sa's and managers (present since the relaunch of the brand) got poached by sl's competitors recently, who want a bit of the magic, which is why the store experience is suffering lately, a lot of the new sa's/managers are notably not into the bigger aesthetic like the old ones were.
post #7118 of 15042
I think he was just saying why bother with SL leathers when the pricing is comparable to CCP


which is silly anyway
post #7119 of 15042

whats funny is that the seasonal items aren't even all that great fitting and also have the price increase.  If SLP really wants to push the seasonal items, at least keep the fit on them comparable to what people expect.

post #7120 of 15042
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Originally Posted by johanm View Post


That's odd. I went to the Sloane St store a few weeks ago and told the guy I was just browsing and don't really wear the SLP style and he roped me into trying on the various "iconic" pieces like the nut Wyatt boots, teddy jacket, double rider "just for fun".

Was also surprised that the jackets fit pretty decently since I don't have a SLP build. Seems like it's working if they're tweaking the patterns to broaden the audience.


I haven't been to the Sloane location, but I imagine there is a different cultural / style difference between Los Angeles and England. That look might not have been as popular outside of America and might even be seen as fresh and exciting, however out here all of these looks have been the uniform of most young people way before Hedi took the reigns. In fact, I think most people would say it's anti fashion and had it not been for Hedi and other brands to follow suit, NYC, London and Paris would have just dismissed it as lazy. Remember when everyone said no one in L.A. knows how to dress? Now everyone is dressing like us. 

 

Aside from that, and I could be completely off base here, but I believe Hypebeasts are much bigger problem in America than in England. Up until a year or so ago, I would never see Pyrex dressed teenagers set foot into H Lorenzo, Maxfield, or YSL but now that has become their main clientele which is why I think certain stores are trying to change that. 

post #7121 of 15042
How is slp biker and ccp in anyway similar
post #7122 of 15042
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

the brand is a victim of it's own hype, the bandwagon's in full effect (as the last few comments demonstrate. comparing ccp to sl, which are totally different things? pretending there are no iconic sl pieces? lol), overexposure in all the wrong places is bringing out reverse snobbery. but that's a good problem to have. let's see if sl can respond to it. i'm sure bieber in head to toe sl makes hedi cry a little bit inside.

most of the really good sa's and managers (present since the relaunch of the brand) got poached by sl's competitors recently, who want a bit of the magic, which is why the store experience is suffering lately, a lot of the new sa's/managers are notably not into the bigger aesthetic like the old ones were.

Anecdotally, I would confirm this SA turnover phenomenon. The quality of SAs at SLP boutiques varies tremendously, vs. places such as Dior where they all know what they're discussing. I've had some really great SAs at SLP, especially those who have been with the brand since transition, and now there is a new crop which say the most embarrassing things, "Oh, this fits you perfectly, no tailoring needed!" on a 3.5K chesterfield that is too long, etc. but I notice the managers usually swoop in to rectify the situation.
post #7123 of 15042
Here's another way of saying it: the biker outfits look like a costume (dressed by the Internet) unless you're a biker. It's contrived and played out. The best slp pieces imo are the ones rarely seen or discussed here.

And sorry but a ccp leather is on another level. The two brands can be mixed if you know what you're doing.
post #7124 of 15042
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Originally Posted by splitsides View Post

Here's another way of saying it: the biker outfits look like a costume (dressed by the Internet) unless you're a biker. It's contrived and played out. The best slp pieces imo are the ones rarely seen or discussed here.

And sorry but a ccp leather is on another level. The two brands can be mixed if you know what you're doing.

 

C'mon man, I'm with you with them being played out (at least on internet forums, since I can't find anyone wearing leather bikers here in Rome), but the "costume" thing....if someone wears a shearling jacket does it look like a costume of a vintage aviator? 

post #7125 of 15042
this dude's a joker. biker jackets are no more a "costume" than work boots or beards or bomber jackets or (like slann notes) shearling aviator jackets are. they're just another category of clothing, one that many of us have been wearing since we were kids, and will probably continue to.

the idea that biker jackets or boots are "played out" is for that very reason absurd. it suggests this guy's a fashion victim, more concerned with what's trendy than what one actually considers interesting or meaningful to wear, consider being the key word. further, the idea that slp and ccp can be combined "if you know what you're doing" is equally absurd. it implies that there's some level of fashion expertise and superiority this poster holds the possession of which is the holy grail of aesthetic knowledge, instead of celebrating a diversity of styles and preferences. i suggest he posts a fit pic to demonstrate that he is indeed the guru he claims to be, instead of making childish comments. i'll look forward to it.
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