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post #241 of 2446
Was in SLP boutique on rodeo yesterday to check out their new stuff. Those leather material on their jacket way better than other fashion designer brands (MMM Balenciaga etc), on par with old YSL but with nicer design. Some of their basic stuff are dull. Jeans are interesting, denim are thinner than Dior and softer. I didn't try on so couldn't comment on fit. Not impressed with their sneaker or the leather shoes.
post #242 of 2446
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Originally Posted by andrewgreg View Post

Was in SLP boutique on rodeo yesterday to check out their new stuff. Those leather material on their jacket way better than other fashion designer brands (MMM Balenciaga etc), on par with old YSL but with nicer design. Some of their basic stuff are dull. Jeans are interesting, denim are thinner than Dior and softer. I didn't try on so couldn't comment on fit. Not impressed with their sneaker or the leather shoes.
was just in flagship in nyc, i agree on the shoes though i happen to like the sneakers, love the bags the rest of the stuff was meh, but comparable to what else is out there ill take it. btw dior store is always empty, wonder how long thats gonna last without a reboot.
post #243 of 2446
The Dior store (at least here in Rodeo) is a bit intimidating to be honest, it just isn't very welcoming and I think that is why it is mostly empty.
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I think their basics are the best offerings to be honest. The sneakers are great I think. The leather is really nice, and they're comfortable and super light..way lighter than common projects, minimal, very clever and tasteful branding. I've worn the white sneakers everyday for a month as beaters and they still look new and shiny. in the sun they are vibrant as fuck. 

 

The Raw jeans, i've worn in pretty much for a month straight as well and there is barely any stretch. Now that they're breaking in, i'm going to take them in to get tapered, but I really like the shape and cut, much more than dior. the diors are much better quality though as far as denim goes and are much thicker and seem to last longer. still, i like the way the slp jeans have a certain vibrance to them and the cut just looks cooler. 

 

the t shirts are expensive and somewhat cropped but i think they look really good paired up with the jeans. especially with the extra length at the top of the jeans. and the button downs are really great. I like the new side vents and the tab/placket at the bottom of the shirts are a nice touch. the material is great and like the jeans and shoes, they have a certain shine/sheen that I really enjoy. 

 

The outerwear pieces are cool, but I haven't really been sold on anything. Nothing too unique and the prices are mental. The shoes and boots are also a disappointment and I'm pretty sure are designed by the factory that makes balenciaga because the combat boots are identical. maybe we'll see something better down the line, but I doubt i'll be convinced on the footwear unless they collaborate with guidi or something. 

 

Just my 2 cents, I realize everything seems way too basic and topman or what not for the price, but I still think what you're really paying for is well designed, luxurious, simple, not too flashy and most importantly really well cut, almost tailored ready to wear items.

post #245 of 2446
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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

The Dior store (at least here in Rodeo) is a bit intimidating to be honest, it just isn't very welcoming and I think that is why it is mostly empty.

Yeah I used to go a lot and before SLP rebranded the guys at dior seemed much happier and talkative and willing to show you everything. They always had sales and were really good about keeping you up to date on new products. 

 

I went about a month ago and everyone looked miserable, nobody seemed to care about any of the products. They said the company had stopped doing sales and limiting availability to saks and boutique and the prices had gone up (bags starting at 3K). I think their way of competing with SLP is by raising the prices and making things exclusive, which might work for those with money to burn that care about brand image and are on some patrick bateman shit. 

 

That said, the quality of Dior stuff at the boutique did look relatively better and more luxurious than SLP but not at the prices they were charging. 

post #246 of 2446
I'm a fan of the leather used in the sneakers. I have both the black and white lows and feel they are aging very well, and the discreetness/distinction is very cool.

I'm a big Dior guy and definitely notice a step up in the quality of some of the pieces. They're definitely going for the exclusive vibe, but it's almost too austere. Their best boutique is the one in Soho which is a little more accessible and hip. The Dior salespeople are much more experienced than the SLP ones I've spoken to in the past; the latter have been clueless about things such as canvasing of jackets and even the difference between Italian and American sizes in one case! shog[1].gif I have a feeling the new SLP regime will address this.
post #247 of 2446
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

I'm a fan of the leather used in the sneakers. I have both the black and white lows and feel they are aging very well, and the discreetness/distinction is very cool.

I'm a big Dior guy and definitely notice a step up in the quality of some of the pieces. They're definitely going for the exclusive vibe, but it's almost too austere. Their best boutique is the one in Soho which is a little more accessible and hip. The Dior salespeople are much more experienced than the SLP ones I've spoken to in the past; the latter have been clueless about things such as canvasing of jackets and even the difference between Italian and American sizes in one case! shog[1].gif I have a feeling the new SLP regime will address this.

 

 

Definitely, same over here (had to get both black and white lows). 

Agreed about Dior/SLP comparison. I remember the first month of the SLP transition, the SA's really didn't have much of a clue as to what denim was raw, or selvedge, etc. But now they have more people on board that seem trained on the items, although half the time I think they are just spouting off bullshit in the hopes that people will just buy the stuff and leave. At Dior they are much more dialed in on the details of every single item, most likely due to the fact that the BH Dior Homme boutique is the size of a walk in closet with a very limited selection of items, while the SLP boutique is a massive showroom catered to both men and women. I see many items flowing in and out of the place as well. Many of the items SA's didn't even know they had. I'm sure Hedi and co try to keep a level of secrecy as well so the employees probably don't know what the deal with half of the items are. I've been there at times where they are receiving new shipments and studying the garments for the first time right on the floor. 

post #248 of 2446
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Originally Posted by andrewgreg View Post

Not impressed with their sneaker or the leather shoes.

Really? I think footwear is the single most compelling piece of the new SL. So many lace-ups, boots, and sandals that I want. Then again, I also loved Hedi's shoes at Dior.

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Originally Posted by RFX45 View Post

The Dior store (at least here in Rodeo) is a bit intimidating to be honest, it just isn't very welcoming and I think that is why it is mostly empty.

The "no-sales" policy is killing them. It's one thing to charge $3k for a wool jacket when a competitor charges $2k, but it's something else entirely when the cheaper one gets marked down to $800 and the Dior variant is still $3000. I don't even bother looking in Dior boutiques anymore; I'm not going to pay retail, so why even look?
post #249 of 2446
Agree with Rfx, I didn't bother to check out Dior on Rodeo yesterday because i think the store is a little intimidating.

As for the product, I feel Dior still using more exclusive material than SLP.



I tried this yesterday. 2 reasons stop me buying.
1. The material is like a towel. too thick for summer. 2. It's fit so small but it's way too short, even size XL. (more like a waistcoat length)
post #250 of 2446
Is dior trying to be like a hermes? Sounds like it. If thats the case their clientele is likely not from walk-in shoppers anymore.
post #251 of 2446
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Originally Posted by SirGrotius View Post

I'm a fan of the leather used in the sneakers. I have both the black and white lows and feel they are aging very well, and the discreetness/distinction is very cool.

I'm a big Dior guy and definitely notice a step up in the quality of some of the pieces. They're definitely going for the exclusive vibe, but it's almost too austere. Their best boutique is the one in Soho which is a little more accessible and hip. The Dior salespeople are much more experienced than the SLP ones I've spoken to in the past; the latter have been clueless about things such as canvasing of jackets and even the difference between Italian and American sizes in one case! shog[1].gif I have a feeling the new SLP regime will address this.

I went to the dior homme store in SoHo once and the personnel was very friendly. good experience.
post #252 of 2446
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Originally Posted by andrewgreg View Post

Agree with Rfx, I didn't bother to check out Dior on Rodeo yesterday because i think the store is a little intimidating.

As for the product, I feel Dior still using more exclusive material than SLP.



I tried this yesterday. 2 reasons stop me buying.
1. The material is like a towel. too thick for summer. 2. It's fit so small but it's way too short, even size XL. (more like a waistcoat length)

 

You left out reason #3 - it's a sleeveless leather vest with a zipper around the neck. 

post #253 of 2446
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You left out reason #3 - it's a sleeveless leather vest with a zipper around the neck. 
only shoulder is leather. black material is cotton. I would buy it for sure if it's a full leather version.
post #254 of 2446
The styling of each look is too literal bordering in costume and there's not much design with each garment that for sure will cost 5K each.
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Originally Posted by colabear View Post

The styling of each look is too literal bordering in costume and there's not much design with each garment that for sure will cost 5K each.

 

 

As someone that is pretty conservative, while trying to remain on the cusp of widely accepted and avante garde (keyword: Trying), i'm pretty paranoiac and always worrying about what others think of me (something i'm working on), I find everything in the SLP collection, even the flamboyant pieces, pretty wearable. Honestly, Half of the most flamboyant looks from SS14 are taken straight out of Undercover's SS13/Talking Heads collection. 

 

With the latest show, while there was nothing groundbreaking, I totally found myself saying, oh shit, i'll get that shirt, or those shoes are sick, and what not. I love Rick and Boris and a lot of avant garde designers but nothing from SS14 was desirable to me. The only other brand I think stood out the most out of everyone was Hermes and Haider, but those are beside the point. 

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