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post #13501 of 14987
Fuck those distressed cowboy wyatts hurts my heart...
post #13502 of 14987
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

why would you want to compare sl to vass, if you want boring office shoes to flaunt, then go buy them. i don't mean that in a mean way, but let's face it, no one's wearing wyatt boots and an L01 to the boardroom. except maybe me and therattler.

if "quality" means "an old white guy making stuff especially for me because i need to feel powerful" then you'll never find what you're looking for here. if on the other hand quality means "something perfectly designed for people who grew up never wanting to be the first kind of person" then you might.

quality isn't necessarily subjective, but the qualities that we prize in sl are often exactly the opposite of those prized in say the alden thread. i could care less if some old fart is hand stitching my boots. quality for me is design, intention, purity, rebellion, freedom from these stifling values of middle managers and their office shoes which together, if done correctly, should add up to a big fuck you factor to people that think quality is the old fart hand stitching boots, whether's he mr vass or suicidal goth ninja poell or whomever. that's the luxury of not giving a shit, which is the best kind of luxury, comfort, effortlessness, really.

so i think maybe you need to step back and think, reflect, mostly we like this stuff because it does all of that, not really so we can flaunt it.

maybe you get my drift, maybe not.

man the new vaccarello designs rolling in here and there are bad.


this. often people confuse quality with utility around here. I'm with neon, the qualities that i value in SLP are those he mentioned. utility, to a much lesser degree. if you want a biker thats going to last forever you don't get a luxury lambskin l01 to wear everyday. it will inevitably wear out, especially because it is such a slim cut it'll wear out in the arm pits etc. similarly w/r/t boots. the luxury materials and design come at a cost to utility. but this stuff isn't made for everyone.

 

those distressed wyatts are terrible. @neonrider can you elaborate on the vaccarello items you've seen?

post #13503 of 14987
Seems like they released an updated version of those cropped biker Chelsea boots. I would be so tempted to pick up a pair in black calf since it looks so similar to Squall's boots from FFVIII.

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lol those look like another designer trying to rip off the wyatt boot
post #13505 of 14987
All of the stuff you're seeing is from Hedi or his team. SS '17 will be repeats as a transition.
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That's not entirely true. There will be a few vacarello items being filtered in, esp with SS17, so that the transition looks smoother.

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That Vetements style Biker I posted a few pages back has Vaccarello written all over it. Even though the pull tabs are similar to earlier SL items, the comically large pull tabs and collars don't seem like something Hedi or his team would seriously release. I'm with Rattler, If SL was quick to push Vaccarello's campaign right at the start of FW16, what's to say they don't just push as many items as they can to make the transition smoother (in their minds)? 

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I was told there's some sneakers/trainers that are his that are going to start showing up because that's his thing.

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you can just label anything 'shit' as vaccarello to fit your point

they done shit bikers since 13 

 

actually say the items you mean instead of being vague 

 

i dont really like it anyway but i think its just the wrong size on ssense (fringes look crap also but)

a few items (that have been out for a while) had them zip pulls also

 

when they've done mens and womens versions of stuff they've kept proportions or whatever the same and it doesnt work


womens version looks nice though

 

http://www.brownsfashion.com/product/01C712870004/059/cropped-seventies-leather-motorcycle-jacket

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Originally Posted by therattler View Post


this. often people confuse quality with utility around here. I'm with neon, the qualities that i value in SLP are those he mentioned. utility, to a much lesser degree. if you want a biker thats going to last forever you don't get a luxury lambskin l01 to wear everyday. it will inevitably wear out, especially because it is such a slim cut it'll wear out in the arm pits etc. similarly w/r/t boots. the luxury materials and design come at a cost to utility. but this stuff isn't made for everyone.

But no one was making any of these arguments. Someone unfamiliar with the footwear asked what the quality was like, not if the quality mattered more than the clothing's other qualities.

The balance between quality and aesthetic/fit/cut is a consideration when purchasing from any designer brand. Some clothing will be constructed at a higher level of care than others, but the other characteristics will generally come at the sacrifice of quality. Though it doesn't have to be the case. It's not as though the other characteristics can only exist with a disregard for quality.
post #13511 of 14987
Not going to lie but I'm digging the new sl/40 low tops
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I almost have a suspicion that this may be a transition piece because this doesn't feel like Hedi at all. This feels a bit too future facing than Hedi's reworked classics style. The new distressed court classics kind of look meh.
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Originally Posted by thorns View Post

Not going to lie but I'm digging the new sl/40 low tops
53633730.jpg

I almost have a suspicion that this may be a transition piece because this doesn't feel like Hedi at all. This feels a bit too future facing than Hedi's reworked classics style. The new distressed court classics kind of look meh.

Haha, I feel the same way. Those look good to me, but they remind of almost a KVA feel, a little futuristic as you mentioned relative to Hedi items.
post #13513 of 14987

only a month and change out from seeing vacarello's stuff for the first time.

post #13514 of 14987
Noticed these stocked on Farfetch the other day, my size apparently didn't stock tho. Anyone knows a store where they sell these in a 40 or if they even will be stocked anywhere else?

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Is it typical for items you order from a store to have some mild wear and tear on them? I ordered the Gold Wyatt chelseas from SS16 in size 40 from the Rodeo Drive store, since they were out of stock elsewhere, to be shipped to Pennsylvania. However, they have clearly shown some use, making me wonder if they were previously returned. I do wish they would have at least informed me about this before sending them. It would be one thing if it was a sale, but I did pay full price for them.

 

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