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post #13426 of 15056
Were there two different colorways of the fw13 wyatts, ocher and ocre? Ocher being a lighter pair? I have a pair of fw13 ocres and they look darker than some pics online. Thanks in advance
post #13427 of 15056
Not going to lie, I've been trying to dress more and more like Hedi (2013) nowadays. This photo of him is just perfection in my head:gettyimages-1547932671.jpg?quality=80

I also have a cropped version on my lock screen ūüė≥
post #13428 of 15056
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

i don't know. i don't really see any individuality in wearing sl this way. but there are different tastes on this forum, some want a uniform, some want self expression. for me the idea that there's one "sl approved" look is the antithesis of the point, which is that hedi explored tons of subcultures during his time at sl, from paris to la to psychedelia to surf punk. all these subcultures are different expressions of rebellion, youth, etc. there's no "one right way" to wear it. why not choose something that really reflects who you are, instead of the internet-approved sl look as above? which is by now really just kind of safe and predictable.

this is reflected in the belts discussion. my fav belts are the studded belts from the permanent collection, in fact my all around fav is probably the gold studded belt from fw14. we tend to discuss the obvious and safe stuff here, over and over again, which is a shame. it's one thing if you're keiran and your look IS really classical, it's another if you're just trying to fit a template without really pushing the boundaries. why not just wear aldens then? if what you really want is safety and belonging, there's a much easier way.

hell, you'll note that whenever we discuss celebs and "the look" it's ALWAYS blue ripped denim and cigar suede. not even black destroyed denim and i don't know, python boots. it's a good look for what it is but it tells me at least that the interest is superficial. not just in sl but in aesthetics in general.

at least the chinese and korean celebs make an effort. it's not always a good effort, in fact usually it's a pretty bad effort, but there IS effort. they at least try to wear different pieces, usually the more expressive pieces in (to them) interesting ways. maybe it fails, but at least there's something there beyond uniformity.

not judging you guys, just saying. there's a lot more to this than the same old biker/ripped jeans look which as much as i love and wear every day i at least try to put in something more into than uniformity.

speaking of clothes, i grabbed the oversized rancher coat. it's not oversized, it's not rancher, it's actually pretty light, super skinny. looking forward to wearing it, much better cut and shearling than previous seasons 3/4 shearlings which actually were a little oversized, bulky, weirdly fitting. also the studded biker but that's another story smile.gif

I got that rancher coat as well. Most amazing shearling so far. I really liked last years black shearling bomber, but the quality was terrible.




That whole oversized description threw me off as well. I almost missed out on it because I supposed it would be as big and ill fitting as previous seasons shearlings.

As far as if its a rancher or not, from my referential point of view its as much a rancher coat as it could be.



Looks exactly as in the movies, just with a much better fit.

And I love how light it is, since theres no metal on it. Absolute grail piece for me.
post #13429 of 15056

while I agree with neon on basically all of that. I too think think hedi is a really good reference point for how I like things to come together. I have trouble with the shirt over a tee under a blazer though. looks goofy on me.

 

but also itll be cool to see how those of us who won't just move to Gucci or whatever, will start to incorporate other things into our wardrobe.

post #13430 of 15056

Has anyone else started looking at other brands to fill the gaps that may be left. I like the "grungey" pieces that have been produced so have been looking at other brands to incorporate, Number (N)ine have some interested bits and seeing Slann's review on a shirt i had a look at Garcons Infideles and really like the look of this cardi.

post #13431 of 15056
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Originally Posted by mwn11 View Post
 

Has anyone else started looking at other brands to fill the gaps that may be left. I like the "grungey" pieces that have been produced so have been looking at other brands to incorporate, Number (N)ine have some interested bits and seeing Slann's review on a shirt i had a look at Garcons Infideles and really like the look of this cardi.

This is actually a saint laurent cardigan from FW13 though, unless I'm much mistaken.

 

Also @ the person who was asking about silver boots a few pages back, were you asking about a specific style? I have jodhpurs in silver that I could post some pictures of.

post #13432 of 15056
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Originally Posted by ZeroChrome View Post
 

This is actually a saint laurent cardigan from FW13 though, unless I'm much mistaken.

 

Also @ the person who was asking about silver boots a few pages back, were you asking about a specific style? I have jodhpurs in silver that I could post some pictures of.


SL did one originally that is pretty much the same yeah but that one is Garcons, Its more the grey version I'm interested in that i dont think SL did (please correct me if I'm wrong).

That was just the best picture i could see one being worn. Looks like shit here.

post #13433 of 15056
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Originally Posted by CRIMINAL MINDED View Post

Were there two different colorways of the fw13 wyatts, ocher and ocre? Ocher being a lighter pair? I have a pair of fw13 ocres and they look darker than some pics online. Thanks in advance

 

There was ocher and nut. Nut colour code is 5710 on the box and ocher 7746.

 

Edit: but you'll see almost everyone re-selling (whether intentionally or otherwise) refer to them always as 'fw13 ocher'.

post #13434 of 15056
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Originally Posted by mwn11 View Post
 


SL did one originally that is pretty much the same yeah but that one is Garcons, Its more the grey version I'm interested in that i dont think SL did (please correct me if I'm wrong).

That was just the best picture i could see one being worn. Looks like shit here.
 

 

Ahh I see, you're right. I really didn't expect it to be their own piece since its so similar to the saint laurent one. I'd be really interested if there was any info about the sizing somewhere. I remember seeing the saint laurent one on grailed and was disappointed that the measurements didn't seem very oversized like it was shown on the runway.

 

edit: nvm i found the measurements.

post #13435 of 15056
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Originally Posted by ZeroChrome View Post
 

 

Ahh I see, you're right. I really didn't expect it to be their own piece since its so similar to the saint laurent one. I'd be really interested if there was any info about the sizing somewhere. I remember seeing the saint laurent one on grailed and was disappointed that the measurements didn't seem very oversized like it was shown on the runway.

 

edit: nvm i found the measurements.


Got a link to the measurements so i could have a look. Im guessing it would be best sizing up if the oversized isn't that big same as saint laurent.

post #13436 of 15056
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Originally Posted by neonrider View Post

i don't know. i don't really see any individuality in wearing sl this way. but there are different tastes on this forum, some want a uniform, some want self expression. for me the idea that there's one "sl approved" look is the antithesis of the point, which is that hedi explored tons of subcultures during his time at sl, from paris to la to psychedelia to surf punk. all these subcultures are different expressions of rebellion, youth, etc. there's no "one right way" to wear it. why not choose something that really reflects who you are, instead of the internet-approved sl look as above? which is by now really just kind of safe and predictable.

this is reflected in the belts discussion. my fav belts are the studded belts from the permanent collection, in fact my all around fav is probably the gold studded belt from fw14. we tend to discuss the obvious and safe stuff here, over and over again, which is a shame. it's one thing if you're keiran and your look IS really classical, it's another if you're just trying to fit a template without really pushing the boundaries. why not just wear aldens then? if what you really want is safety and belonging, there's a much easier way.

hell, you'll note that whenever we discuss celebs and "the look" it's ALWAYS blue ripped denim and cigar suede. not even black destroyed denim and i don't know, python boots. it's a good look for what it is but it tells me at least that the interest is superficial. not just in sl but in aesthetics in general.

at least the chinese and korean celebs make an effort. it's not always a good effort, in fact usually it's a pretty bad effort, but there IS effort. they at least try to wear different pieces, usually the more expressive pieces in (to them) interesting ways. maybe it fails, but at least there's something there beyond uniformity.

not judging you guys, just saying. there's a lot more to this than the same old biker/ripped jeans look which as much as i love and wear every day i at least try to put in something more into than uniformity.

speaking of clothes, i grabbed the oversized rancher coat. it's not oversized, it's not rancher, it's actually pretty light, super skinny. looking forward to wearing it, much better cut and shearling than previous seasons 3/4 shearlings which actually were a little oversized, bulky, weirdly fitting. also the studded biker but that's another story smile.gif

 

I try to go for the most intricate and almost off-the runway looks as much as possible but obviously it is difficult due to a bunch of factors, like the expensive prices of the more flashy/constructed garments, where you can wear them, and when. 2 weeks ago I wore this, but it was for a dinner in a nice sushi restaurant, so it was evening, I was able to go by the car (in Rome public transport is not a viable option while wearing something like that) and also it was obviously an air conditioned place otherwise I would have chocked in August weather. Otherwise, I would be wearing that stuff everyday, everywhere. Wearing the cookie cutter outfit like Chromeo Dave it's just the most easy thing to do, and also most practical.

post #13437 of 15056
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Originally Posted by ZeroChrome View Post
 

 

Also @ the person who was asking about silver boots a few pages back, were you asking about a specific style? I have jodhpurs in silver that I could post some pictures of.

Interested in pics

post #13438 of 15056
Well said, @neonrider

I know I'm occasionally guilty of wearing a pretty standard biker-and-jeans outfit as an everyday option, but I am always looking to incorporate more individuality into the look. While most of my items are more classic, because it feels like the most versatile investment, I make a point to pick up the occasional standout item which really resonates with me. With so many people jumping on the SLP bandwagon, it can be hard to standout wearing the basics (or even some of the more popular outr√© pieces), but I still think there's a form of expression to wearing, say, PC items that lies in the reasoning behind your look. Namely, your appreciation of the design and aesthetiques of a piece, and wanting to display this understanding to others around you. Not just wearing something recognizable‚ÄĒor recognizably expensive‚ÄĒin order to generate envy or communicate some superiority based on monetary affluence. Really, the closest antecedent I can think of is wearing a band shirt from someone important to you, versus wearing one from H&M for it's "vintage" appeal. It's a practice that's really been co-opted in this century, though it can still be rooted in personal expression‚ÄĒit's just become more difficult to make that judgement as an outside observer.

For what it's worth, I love the studded belts, though they run a little steep. I remember seeing the gold version worn with a Le Smoking jacket and jeans in the print advertisements of the time, and it looked insanely good. Definitely a grail piece for me.
Edited by Isolar - 8/19/16 at 6:35am
post #13439 of 15056
For me I do not feel obligated to conform into anybody's idea of what's cool and what's not. If I like something I will wear the hell out of it and I truly feel like it's upto the individual to make their own statement. You can wear the most common piece and make it your own by adding your own personal touch to it. After all what you wear should reflect who you are and your individuality. But that's my opinion. smile.gif
post #13440 of 15056

but how do you come to like what you like? some people have a greater depth of cultural understanding or whatever, and want to reference specific things; others identify with brand on a more superficial level. but both are embedded in relations to other people's conspicuous consumption. and both are forced to select certain items that they identify with as a result.

 

there's only a superficial difference in someone wearing a zany runway blazer instead of an L17 with their jeans and boots. everyone is just attempting to evade the anxiety of representing an 'individuality' that relies on behaving identically to others. most of us just get annoyed when the so called wrong people are wearing all of the gear at Selfridges. but who cares? give it a month SLP is over. we just need a few pics of the musical note jacket on insta and that's it.

 

there are some contradictions though. on the one hand we are condemning the slp uniform, but we always groan at those who 'overdo it'.  neon's insight seems to suggest that greater emphasis should be put on the labour of putting together a look. fine, but then we can only support someone who appears to work harder at picking from the same elements, regardless of the end product.

 

in fact, I think the most interesting pieces from Hedi are not the out there stuff, because every designer does that. not everyone just puts out a leather jacket that everyone gets mad about because 'ITS A COPY OF VINTAGE'; plain black skinny jeans 'THAT YOU COULD GET ANYWHERE ELSE' . these are the best pieces because they get the most amount of attention: equal hate and equal love.

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