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I don't think most people here actually know how SS13/FW13 fit...

 

New season are my favorite fit yet, but D02's are a little bigger in waist and taper down super tight. 2013 Jeans were unforgiving all throughout. Even D03 waist was tighter than any other season. 

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I don't think most people here actually know how SS13/FW13 fit...

 

New season are my favorite fit yet, but D02's are a little bigger in waist and taper down super tight. 2013 Jeans were unforgiving all throughout. Even D03 waist was tighter than any other season. 

 

For d02s,

I have to take 27 in both AW13 blue and black raw and they literally hug my thighs

and the ones from FW14 and after always leave some room in the thigh, I also have to get 26s for the same width in the waist as the AW13 d02

post #13023 of 14965

the new issues of vogue et al. have the new vacarello ads instead of the palladium/paris collection campaigns. it's like they aren't even trying to sell the new season.

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the new issues of vogue et al. have the new vacarello ads instead of the palladium/paris collection campaigns. it's like they aren't even trying to sell the new season.

Does SLP even have to advertise through those means? Hedi stuff sells like hot cakes, and I don't think I've ever seen an actual ad for it in the medium it was intended for. Most of the people buying up tons of stuff season after season (read: devotees and fuccbois) don't really need the ads I don't think. I'm sure most people in this thread certainly don't. I'm not saying that the advertising doesn't help, but it seems to me like most of the newer SLP customer (and perhaps the new customer in general) buys based on street style pics and stuff.

Advertising the change to the crowd who buys these magazines seems like a good idea, especially if they're trying to re-capture the "classic" (ie older) YSL customer who was turned off by Hedi's designs.
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I always felt the ads—along with the shows, stores, etc.—despite being secondary to the clothes, were integral to the immersive quality of the label, and it's sad to see these details being stripped from the brand. I'm sure it will be able to retain a collective of more mindless consumers, but the new direction is really souring the experience for me. It's becoming more difficult to retain an open mind.
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Does SLP even have to advertise through those means? Hedi stuff sells like hot cakes, and I don't think I've ever seen an actual ad for it in the medium it was intended for. Most of the people buying up tons of stuff season after season (read: devotees and fuccbois) don't really need the ads I don't think. I'm sure most people in this thread certainly don't. I'm not saying that the advertising doesn't help, but it seems to me like most of the newer SLP customer (and perhaps the new customer in general) buys based on street style pics and stuff.

Advertising the change to the crowd who buys these magazines seems like a good idea, especially if they're trying to re-capture the "classic" (ie older) YSL customer who was turned off by Hedi's designs.

 

Brand Heritage.

Those first few and last few pages in a magazine littered with advertisings from Dior, Hermes, Chanel, etc isn't just about advertising, its a status symbol. If you are in the first few or last pages of a magazine, it means you are dominating the industry and not one to be fucked with. 

 

You also seem to forget that Women exist and there is a far greater number of people that are not as deep into SLP as the devotees and fuccbois you mention. 

 

SLP has advertised month after month, not only in fashion magazines, but music magazines, art magazines, design and furniture magazines, lifestyle magazines, and even soft porn magazines. 97% of the people that they are marketing to have no idea who Hedi Slimane is. They are going after people who are not fashion obsessed (which surprise, includes a large number of Vogue's subscribers). 

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Brand Heritage.
Those first few and last few pages in a magazine littered with advertisings from Dior, Hermes, Chanel, etc isn't just about advertising, its a status symbol. If you are in the first few or last pages of a magazine, it means you are dominating the industry and not one to be fucked with. 

You also seem to forget that Women exist and there is a far greater number of people that are not as deep into SLP as the devotees and fuccbois you mention. 

SLP has advertised month after month, not only in fashion magazines, but music magazines, art magazines, design and furniture magazines, lifestyle magazines, and even soft porn magazines. 97% of the people that they are marketing to have no idea who Hedi Slimane is. They are going after people who are not fashion obsessed (which surprise, includes a large number of Vogue's subscribers). 

You're right. I do tend to forget about the more "casual" consumer, and most women in my initial thoughts on stuff. Definitely a product of the browsing insular, menswear oriented forums. The status symbol thing didn't cross my mind either, since I generally view the "traditional" fashion media as something of an "old guard" who are quickly losing steam to the Internet and social media.
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I can't say I'm keen on the new adverts and videos at all, but at least permanent collection items have been used in them (raw D02, black low tops, Hedi boots, women's jodhpur 40's), and the models are still slim. It could have been a lot worse, and at this stage I'm fairly confident we'll be able to buy a lot of the permanent items we've all grown to love for several years to come, as well as maybe some new variations of them. 

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its just bizarre that kering is trying to whitewash hedi so completely. the campaigns had some beautiful images that would've looked great in print. 

post #13030 of 14965

Definitely. Nothing from Vaccarello should have been introduced until near the end of AW 16. As was the case when Hedi replaced Pilati. 

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What do you guys think of these? Not quite sure how the knee patch goes with me but I need some opinions
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If there is a particular item that you are looking for and it is sold out online at ysl.com but available in one of the stores in your size according to the website's store locator (i.e. NYC/Rodeo Drive), is it possible to have it shipped to you, either to the nearest boutique or directly to your place?

post #13033 of 14965
Yeah, just call the boutique.
post #13034 of 14965

Today (can't layer in Rome unfortunately, about 33°C atm), wearing cotton babycat tee, destroyed D02 and fw13 zip up Wyatts. Feedback appreciated, and have a nice weekend guys.

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My raw indigo and black D02s arrived from SSENSE last Friday and I got around to trying them today. They're good and I'll be keeping them both. The indigo is actually the same code as AW 13 (327138), and is tighter than the black (maybe not in the waist band, but definitely in the hips, thighs and calves). The black has a different style code which makes sense considering that they're made in Italy and £65 cheaper, while the indigo are made in Japan. The knees could be a bit skinnier (they're a shade looser than the AW 15 mid waists), but once worn for a while so that the creases start to develop behind the knees they'll be fine. They fit quite similar to the AW 13 jeans, but about a size bigger. I actually took the same size as my AW 13 jeans (29), and I'm glad they're almost a size looser, as I think I'm heavier than I was because my AW 13 ones are looking a bit on the tight side these days. Also, I'm really happy with SSENSE's speed of shipping and packing - no ridiculous tagging like some retailers, and arrived well protected. I'll definitely buy from them again.

 

OnlySLP, the patent Devon Derby is really nice (the shape is 10/10), but not particularly easy to wear. I actually ended up sending mine back, as they were a little on the small size (they fit smaller than the Devon boots I have), and I didn't think I'd end up wearing them much. They looked nice with black jeans and a sleek black knit, and with more formal wear, but I would feel a little self conscious in them, and so I decided to hold out and hope somewhere has the sense to buy the plain calf instead. I do really like patent, but they're a bit out of my comfort zone and I feel like I'd be just as happy with, and maybe even prefer, the classic Richelieu if I ever decide to get some down the line. 

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