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post #10186 of 15655
Really want a L01/L17 right now but can't pull the trigger. It's just a lot of money for a piece of clothing, thinking of getting the Acne Gibson instead. But it doesn't feel like a real alternative
post #10187 of 15655
there ARE no alternatives, SLP biker is the best in the world, just drop the cash knowing that if you have the dough ready don't hesitate.

the only time anyone should get alternative is to wear while saving for the grail of all grails.
post #10188 of 15655
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Originally Posted by needhelp123 View Post

there ARE no alternatives, SLP biker is the best in the world, just drop the cash knowing that if you have the dough ready don't hesitate.

the only time anyone should get alternative is to wear while saving for the grail of all grails.


I don't agree with this. Having owned an L01, L17 and a few other of the classic riders and twists, I think what I love most about SLP is that I've learned to appreciate many of the original classics like Schott and especially the more recent Japanese repro brands. 

Sure, SLP is grail worthy, but it's no different from what Raf did when he tweaked Fostex and military grade jackets and added some patches on top.

 

My L01 didn't last as long as I hoped it would. It's a delicate item. Most of my SLP items have gone to repair, even their $375 T-Shirts have holes in them after about 5 wears in under a year. Not something I was thrilled about, but the point is that Hedi is just re-creating a foundation of which most other brands are following. He simply took a luxury brand and gave it the youthful attitude high fashion needed. Even Rick Owens is cutting his jackets and t-shirts closer to the hip. I used to think Full SLP was the way to go, but there are so many other great brands and finds available now everywhere that it's a bit obnoxious to say that there are no other alternatives, considering SLP is comprised of reproductions and inspirations in general. 

 

Lastly, My personal and very skewed viewpoint experience is that most of the sick biker jackets that i see out in the wild I assume are Hedi and end up being  just simple Schott jackets maybe tweaked and tailored. Hedi makes a great jacket, but it would be a naive and juvenile to think that his design is the best in the world. And i think this is also a big problem with fashion. Why can't we just enjoy the plethora of options available to us? 

post #10189 of 15655
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Originally Posted by scanner View Post

 especially the more recent Japanese repro brands. 

 

which brands? I really like blackmeans so am on the look out for others

post #10190 of 15655
@onlyslp, they are washed black.

On the jacket debate, I find that if you really want something, you'll buy it eventually, even if you buy an alternative in the meantime. Why not just get what you really want to begin with?
post #10191 of 15655
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Originally Posted by filcol View Post

Really want a L01/L17 right now but can't pull the trigger. It's just a lot of money for a piece of clothing, thinking of getting the Acne Gibson instead. But it doesn't feel like a real alternative

 

Don't get an Acne jacket if what you want is a SLP. Especially since an Acne jacket is a quite expensive alernative already. Also Fok said once that he had to return an Acne jacket once because the leather was so bad, and I think it was a Gibson.

 

Whenever I've tried to get a cheaper alternative of something I really liked, I've ended up spending more money as I bought the alternative and ended up buying the real deal.

 

It depends on how badly you want something, though. For example I kinda like suede jodhpurs but I don't really want a pair at all cost and I'm not sure if I'd pull them off, so I'll probably get some SeF even though the design on SLP is better. If that were the case with jackets you have Falcon or the upcoming SF x Luxire collab. They're like 50% cheaper than Acne and very probably higher quality. And MTM, if you need it, you could even get the measurements of a SLP.

post #10192 of 15655
@filcol I highly recommend looking into the John Elliott riders jacket. I have worn back to back with a size 44 01 and the fit is exactly the same. Leather is incredible, RIRi hardware and looks incredible layered, zipped or worn open. People people stop me all time asking about it and a client asked to try it on last week hahah.I'm still getting an 01 but am very glad I have it in my collection

@scanner when you have a sec can you elaborate a bit about the 01 not lasting long? Just curious before I buy .
post #10193 of 15655

i have had my L01 for 2 years now, it seems to still be almost the same way as it was 2 years back except for all the general leather stuff like stretch and leather creasing marks. The shine of the L01 is still there. All these things maybe because I haven't worn it as much unlike @scanner and I also take pretty good care of it. FYI: I am 5'8" I wear the size 44.

post #10194 of 15655
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Originally Posted by OakGhost View Post

@filcol I highly recommend looking into the John Elliott riders jacket. I have worn back to back with a size 44 01 and the fit is exactly the same. Leather is incredible, RIRi hardware and looks incredible layered, zipped or worn open. People people stop me all time asking about it and a client asked to try it on last week hahah.I'm still getting an 01 but am very glad I have it in my collection

@scanner when you have a sec can you elaborate a bit about the 01 not lasting long? Just curious before I buy .

 

Always wanted to try the John Elliott one as it looks really sturdy and well fitting, but in Europe I think no stores stock it :(

post #10195 of 15655
Highly recommended the John Elliott rider myself. It's great quality and great fit. The summer version just came out and they have this out in the fall.
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post #10197 of 15655
Jodhpurs today:

post #10198 of 15655
+1 for falcon garments

also, selling a sz 31 d02, very good condition, lmk if you're interested!
post #10199 of 15655
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Jodhpurs today:


What kind of jeans are those? Looking for a nice light bleached wash. My 2014 pair is just about done
post #10200 of 15655
Some observations on the leathers, others may disagree...IMO the standard SLP L01 is often a bit flimsy for the price tag, though I understand the quality this season is better. My favorite leathers they've put out the past few years have been the seasonal offerings, usually in calf leather. Overall I think it's the nature of the material, though - calf is generally going to wear tougher/better over time and probably look better (lamb looks good off the rack but doesn't usually wear as well over time).

If you're after a beater/everyday leather I would also suggest the vintage or schott, etc. route or find a SLP calf leather second hand. Also, SLP cuts aren't for everybody (cropped) and it's more important to get the fit right in the long run. In my case, the L01 has never fit me all that well, I usually have to size down to get the right fit the the shoulders/arms and then the jacket ends up being way too short for me in the body (I'm 6'). The seasonal calf leathers tend to be cropped as well but are proportional and fit TTS so they look good.

Just my .02 cents. Also, this thread has way too much suede and not enough animal print.
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