Originally Posted by NorCal
Meh, I'm pretty sure SA is in the middle east, you know, where Mo and Islam were born. Of course the spread of Islam was aided by being the religion of an empire that grew rapidly at that time. But that is true of Christianity as well, why hold it against the Muslims.
And which ancient Egyptians are you talking about? The Macedonian Pharaohs. Or maybe the Nubian. People change, populations move and over time there are no monolithic populations. Hell aren’t many Jews in Israel not of even remotely Semitic blood?
Conquest and expansion does not equal ethnic cleansing and I don't think its fair to equate the spread of Islam with ethic cleansing. Hell the biggest Muslim population in the world is not Arab and never was conquered during the Arab conquests.
I'm not holding it against the muslims, I'm saying that its crazy to suggest that the muslims are/were persecuted. that line of reasoning is about an inch from holocust denial, people like to say "well, waht happened to the jews really wasn't anything worse than what happend to X" and use that to try to erode the facts of the holocust.
historically speaking, islam, and arabs, came from the arabian pennisula. in the 7nth century, they spread out to north africa, to the levant, to persia, to the rest of the gulf. they did so with violence. they did use what we would call enthic cleansing today. the difference between that and christianity is that the "empire" of islam was exactly equal to the "church" of islam. the leader of the army and the state was also the leader of the religion, for almost all of the expansion.
honestly, what's frustrating with these conversations is that its not like we are talking about something that isn't documented. for 50 bucks, an amazon account and 8 hours of time, you can know the history of the muslim conquest, too.