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John Lobb Jermyn III - but Quality???

post #1 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:01am
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Don't know if I should laugh or cry

John Lobb Prestige Jermyn III

No S or R, worn around 10 times for a couple of hours mainly inside the office

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post #2 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:03am
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Originally Posted by goodlensboy View Post

Don't know if I should laugh or cry
John Lobb Prestige Jermyn III



you should do neither.

Apply some glue and glue the leather back on. That's how they do it at the Lobb factory anyway.
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post #3 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:09am
Not a defect. That happens to closed channel soles sometimes. It's normal. I'd get some contact cement or "Shoe Goo."
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post #4 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:12am

I would be crying but like the guys are saying give a glue back together and should be all ok

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post #5 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:27am
There seems to be a bit more going on than meets the eye. The channeled sole openning can happen and may mean insufficient use of cement at the factory or poor technique. Esasily repaired though.

More imprtantly however is the small seperation of sole to welt. You can see a gap or step and this may be caused by loose or poor tension of the outsole stitching. Ordinarily both should behave as one.
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post #6 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:36am
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There seems to be a bit more going on than meets the eye. The channeled sole openning can happen and may mean insufficient use of cement at the factory or poor technique. Esasily repaired though.
More imprtantly however is the small seperation of sole to welt. You can see a gap or step and this may be caused by loose or poor tension of the outsole stitching. Ordinarily both should behave as one.

60% of my welted shoes separate between the welt and sole like this. EG, Lobb, and C&J all included. That is also a non-issue.
Edited by rebel222 - 10/3/12 at 10:48am
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post #7 of 51
10/3/12 at 10:37am

How do you like the shoes apart from this issue? 

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post #8 of 51
10/3/12 at 11:29am
For only 10 wears it looks like that whole area of the sole near the toe is worn more than I would think.

Maybe consider flush metal toe plates?
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post #9 of 51
10/3/12 at 11:40am
send the shoes to Nelson for repairing and have them add flush mounted toe plates

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post #10 of 51
10/3/12 at 12:01pm
Similar problem with 2 pairs of new JL bought at the Houston NM store late last year. Shoe Goo worked and shoes are alive and well.

Regards.
PS. B. Nelson just added metal toe plates to 12 pairs of my shoes so i wont face this situation again!icon_gu_b_slayer[1].gif
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post #11 of 51
10/3/12 at 12:22pm
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How do you like the shoes apart from this issue? 

Clearly the most sublime RTW shoe ever.... and RTG (ready to glue) and RTFP (ready to flush plate)

I actually did not expect this from a $ 1,700 beauty
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post #12 of 51
10/3/12 at 1:39pm
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Originally Posted by rebel222 View Post

60% of my welted shoes separate between the welt and sole like this. EG, Lobb, and C&J all included. That is also a non-issue.

That's too bad, but good on you for not worrying about it.

Personally, I would rather all my welted shoes be in the 40% that don't have this going on. I would also expect more prsetigious shoes to behave better here.

My father, had roughly a dozen well worn Dacks and Church shoes when he retired a decade ago and only one had a little of this going on!

It happens but maybe moreso now than ever (although it shouldn't)
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post #13 of 51
10/3/12 at 1:44pm
I, too, am tough on the toes but no Prestige shoe should look like this unless you've been swimming in them. I'd be curious as to what JL has to say about this. Send them the pics and report back.
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post #14 of 51
10/3/12 at 3:56pm

Looks fantastic but I'm a G&G man but very tempted on trying a pair out next time i'm in JL 

 

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Clearly the most sublime RTW shoe ever.... and RTG (ready to glue) and RTFP (ready to flush plate)
I actually did not expect this from a $ 1,700 beauty
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post #15 of 51
10/3/12 at 4:03pm
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

I, too, am tough on the toes but no Prestige shoe should look like this unless you've been swimming in them. I'd be curious as to what JL has to say about this. Send them the pics and report back.

+1
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