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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 

I've researched threads here but have some specific questions

 

So I'm attending a wedding in a week and a half that is black tie and have been debating renting vs. buying. I honestly would prefer to rent as I never attend black tie events but the thought of an ill fitting tux does not make me happy. So I have been giving thought to just going to Jos A Banks and buying a tux. Money is tight but I could swing it if needed. So I saw this peak label jacket on sale for 140 along with these pants for $60 or these for $78. Although I'm not crazy about that satin band on the first pants.

 

Am I just better off renting a Joseph Abboud tux? Again I may not wear a tux again for years. If I had the time I would have tried to buy something used online but seems like its too late to do that.

 

Another question - The girlfriend would prefer I wear a tie vs a bowtie. If I do go with a tie is there a particular type of shirt I should go with?

post #2 of 10

Joseph A. Bank makes a better peak lapel tuxedo: http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_101786

It comes with pants.

 

There are several differences, among them that the Signature one does not have a center vent (center vent=bad for formal wear). The Signature model also has grosgrain lapels, which is a plus in my opinion.

 

Either way, I think renting a tuxedo is bad. You are not going to be able to get it to fit properly. If you choose to go the Joseph A. Bank route, you will still need a tailor. With only a week and a half to go, you are probably only going to have time for basic alterations, like hemming the pants and adjusting the sleeves.

post #3 of 10
Buying is a better idea than renting. It'll be higher quality (rental stuff is the crappiest of the crap), and you can get it tailored to fit you properly. And with a place like Jos. A. Bank, it's not even that much more pricey, especially if you wind up wearing it a second or third time over your life, and it will last that long.

As for alterations, sleeves and hem are a must, but you should be able to get those turned around in a week, no problem, though you might have to go to an outside tailor. I did buy a suit (actually, two) at Bank at one point, and they took two weeks, since they had to send it to a central facility. My normal tailor can turn stuff around in half a week if you need it quickly, even if you're doing stuff like taking in the waist on a jacket (which wouldn't be a bad idea with Jos. A Bank stuff).
post #4 of 10

Nice sale.  Not their best (that's the 70% off entire site sale), but in light of your time constraints, it sounds like a godsend.  I have the gosgrain lapel tux mentioned above, and love it, but the less expensive one should be fine given your parameters.  Low on cash, and not likely to wear it again for some time.  Either way, it beats renting.  Good luck. 
 

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Originally Posted by msulinski View Post

Joseph A. Bank makes a better peak lapel tuxedo: http://www.josbank.com/menswear/shop/Product_11001_10050_101786

It comes with pants.

 

There are several differences, among them that the Signature one does not have a center vent (center vent=bad for formal wear). The Signature model also has grosgrain lapels, which is a plus in my opinion.

 

Either way, I think renting a tuxedo is bad. You are not going to be able to get it to fit properly. If you choose to go the Joseph A. Bank route, you will still need a tailor. With only a week and a half to go, you are probably only going to have time for basic alterations, like hemming the pants and adjusting the sleeves.

I just took a walk over during lunch and ordered this overnighted. Plenty of good tailors here in NYC so I shouldn't have a problem with alterations in time for next week. Appreciate the help!

 

A couple last questions:

 

I love the way Brooks Brothers Slim Fit dress shirts fit so I'll probably pick up a formal shirt there. Then the only remaining things are a tie and shoes. For the shoes would a well shined Allen Edmonds Delray be acceptable? I'm guessing that doesn't make the cut.

post #6 of 10
Thread Starter 

Reading up on other shoe threads I can see the answer will be a no for the Delray. But AE is having a great sale and I can pick up black Fifth Avenues for ~$200. Would that work?

post #7 of 10

I would definitely not go with Delrays. I would do Park Avenues over 5th Avenues for a tuxedo. I also think the black PA is a good conservative business shoe to have around when you need it. The minimalist styling is also better suited towards formal wear, though ideally you would get something with a plain toe (plaintoe balmoral or opera pump, though these are less versatile than the PA).

post #8 of 10
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Are there any good alternatives to this Brooks Brothers shirt? http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=235&Product_Id=1390391&Parent_Id=1032&default_color=WHITE&sort_by=lowestPrice&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=16-1/2%2034

 

Its a bib front spread collar so I can wear with either a bowtie or four in hand?

post #9 of 10

Curious about jp4's question too

post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by jp4266 View Post

Are there any good alternatives to this Brooks Brothers shirt? http://www.brooksbrothers.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Merchant_Id=1&Section_Id=235&Product_Id=1390391&Parent_Id=1032&default_color=WHITE&sort_by=lowestPrice&sectioncolor=&sectionsize=16-1/2%2034

 

Its a bib front spread collar so I can wear with either a bowtie or four in hand?

You should not wear this with a four in hand tie, as you should not be wearing four in hand ties with black tie, and this shirt is only for black tie. It is perfectly fine with a bowtie. I recommend the turndown collar over the wing collar. I tried a wing collar, but was unhappy with how the bowtie band was visible.

 

Not sure why you are looking for an alternative, as it is a perfectly good shirt, but here is one:

http://www.ctshirts.com/men's-shirts/men's-tuxedo-shirts/Marcella-bib-front-classic-collar-tuxedo-slim-fit-shirt-?q=usddefault||EV022WHT||||||||||||| 

 

It is cheaper now, but the Brooks Brothers may be cheaper once the Dec 26 sale prices take affect.

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