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post #256 of 444
If I understand correctly, Stebbin was only able to get this suit for $200 because he ordered another suit at the same time. If he'd ordered it as a stand-alone suit, it would have cost $568.
post #257 of 444
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Originally Posted by Journeyman View Post

If I understand correctly, Stebbin was only able to get this suit for $200 because he ordered another suit at the same time. If he'd ordered it as a stand-alone suit, it would have cost $568.

I'm not sure what the full price is, but the suit was discounted because he bought one of the more expensive ones along with it. The less expensive suit came first so that he could send feedback to help with the more expensive one.

post #258 of 444
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It looks pretty good I must say, there re a few things you could improve on your next one I reckon.

it looks pretty nice and clean, not lumpy like most online MTM suits I see. The issues at the back look like you are either leaning forward or there is a balance issue with the trousers.

 

The MTM industry likes to give the impression that you can simply send in a set of measurements and get back a perfectly fitting suits. We are of of the few companies that will tell you that’s rarely going to happen. If it’s your first MTM suit it’s more than likely going to need at least some minor alterations after it arrives. It doesn’t matter where you purchased it, either online, in store or even at a tailors, if you want a really good fitting suit then the finished suit will likely need further tweaking after delivery. If you buy in store or at a tailors then they should call you in for a fitting then have the finished suit altered to fit better however what you need to remember is that this is included in the upfront price of the suit. If you buy online then this is something you need to do for yourself. However, the price difference makes it worthwhile and you should still save a considerable amount over buying in store.

 

Most online sites have backup for the occasions when things go wrong. We have our No Worries Guarantee so that if the suit simply doesn’t fit we will pay to have it altered or remake it even if the measurements supplied by the customer were the cause. The whole idea is that a customer can buy a suit with the confidence that he will end up with a reasonable fit. If the suit needs alteration to fit properly we will reimburse the customer usually the full amount of the alteration cost and we will do it in cash not store credit as many online sites offer. If the suit cannot be economically altered we will remake it at no charge.

 

We remade one of Stebbin’s suits. All he did was send us an email with a photo of the problem and we agreed to a remake immediately and arranged a replacement quickly. Online MTM is a process. With each of Stebbin's suit we have tweaked the measurements so that each suit fits better than the last and we are getting closer and closer to that almost perfect fit and the tweaks are getting smaller and smaller each time. As he wrote his last trousers fitted extremely well so I’m not sure what’s causing the bunching shown in the photo. If it is a problem I’ll simply have them remade.

 

I’d say that after the next suit Stebbin will reach the point where he can simply buy a suit and just send me the fabric code with the instructions to use the measurements we have on file. This opens up whole range of fine suiting at value for money prices.

post #259 of 444

I for one am glad this thread has taken a positive and productive turn.
 

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I for one am glad this thread has taken a positive and productive turn.

 

+1
post #261 of 444
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I for one am glad this thread has taken a positive and productive turn.

 

Me too.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Stebbin. Just out of curiousity, how does this suit compare in fit to the first one that you got? Was there quite a difference and what kind of alterations were needed before it fit to your satisfaction?
post #262 of 444
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Me too.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Stebbin. Just out of curiousity, how does this suit compare in fit to the first one that you got? Was there quite a difference and what kind of alterations were needed before it fit to your satisfaction?

The jacket length of the first suit I received was too long and the shoulders were too wide. I was able to have the jacket length shortened and Simon paid for the alterations. At the time however, I wasn't aware of the sleeve pitch problems and divots caused by wide shoulders so the issues persisted for the second suit, along with the usual high button stance. This was part of the Back to Work package, so I received the suits in a fairly short period of time. 

 

I adjusted the shoulder width and reduced the hip measurements for my next order. For the third suit, Simon used a different tailor who completely misinterpreted the measurements so he remade the suit after I sent some pictures and an email. I found that particular tailor preferred a more structured shoulder and he paid more attention to the details such as lining, contrast piping and backing buttons, which the tailors for the first two suits did not use. The buttons he used were still plastic although they were of a better quality than the ones on my first two suits. However, he only canvased the chest and not the lapels so there was very little lapel roll on the jacket. Nonetheless, it was a reasonable fit although I probably made the trouser hems and jacket hips a little too tight. I changed this back for my next order. 

 

This new jacket is made to the same standard as my original suits, with the relatively thin lining and plastic buttons. I requested a more structured shoulder and changes to the sleeve pitch, which the tailor followed. I feel that this jacket fits far better at the shoulders and throughout the body although the armholes are an annoyance. It seems while the tailors can reduce the dimensions of the armhole, they retain the standard shape so the jacket still lifts up when I raise my arms and there is a very strong pulling at the base of the sleevehead.  However, this fabric is of a much better quality and it has a good drape which the first two did not. It was also thicker and more resistant to wrinkling than the other suits. 

I'll have to look a bit further into the bunching but I suspect it is a balance issue which did not appear in my previous orders. I would have to stand in a particular way for the bunching to disappear. 


Edited by Stebbin - 5/27/13 at 9:44pm
post #263 of 444
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I'll have to look a bit further into the bunching but I suspect it is a balance issue which did not appear in my previous orders. I would have to stand in a particular way for the bunching to disappear. 

I think I read Despos describe a check where you pull up on the back of the pants; if the bunching disappeared, then the waistband needed to be lowered (I'm assuming that's balance?)

Thanks for your response and hope your next suit turns out even better.
post #264 of 444

Simon sent me an email regarding the bunching on the trousers and we worked out that the tailor had shortened some of the measurements at the back of the rise and the thighs. He graciously offered me a remake of the trousers as well as confirming the specifications of the next suit. The service that he has provided is highly commendable and it is good to see the lengths he has gone to correcting my order and ensuring that I had a good fit.  

post #265 of 444

I too have ordered from Simon, and we have been working out the details of my suit.  The first suit I received had a good fit in the trousers (could have had a bit more hip/thigh room), but the jacket was much too small in the chest.  I sent him some pictures and described the issue, and he agreed to remake the suit.  This time, we used measurements from a suit I have that fits well vs. body measurements.  The suit arrived and fit very well, but this time the pants were too tight, so I took the first set of pants and the second jacket and ended up with something that fits alright.  Unfortunately, the remake lacked many of the options I had specified in my original suit, such as a monogram, hand-stiched lapel, and the pants had an interesting issue: Simon had e-mailed me and told me the pants needed to be redone because the tailor did not make them with pleats.  When I received the new pants, I noticed the remake of the remake of the original pants only had 1 pleat, not two, so that was unfortunate, but with some slight altering (tweaking) I can use the pants from the first suit and the second jacket and have something useful.  For my troubles, Simon has graciously offered to discount a future purchase for me, and I am considering the Rome Corporate Package, as there are several fabrics in there I like.  I am thinking though, of making use of the option to send in my suit to him and have it measured, as this should guarantee that all suits purchased from him fit just like the one I have that fits great.  Sure, I have to pay to ship it to him, and $30 for return shipping, but if that's all it costs me for a guaranteed fit and no more remakes, then I think it is worth it.  Has anyone else sent him a suit of theirs that they like?

post #266 of 444
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I too have ordered from Simon, and we have been working out the details of my suit.  The first suit I received had a good fit in the trousers (could have had a bit more hip/thigh room), but the jacket was much too small in the chest.  I sent him some pictures and described the issue, and he agreed to remake the suit.  This time, we used measurements from a suit I have that fits well vs. body measurements.  The suit arrived and fit very well, but this time the pants were too tight, so I took the first set of pants and the second jacket and ended up with something that fits alright.  Unfortunately, the remake lacked many of the options I had specified in my original suit, such as a monogram, hand-stiched lapel, and the pants had an interesting issue: Simon had e-mailed me and told me the pants needed to be redone because the tailor did not make them with pleats.  When I received the new pants, I noticed the remake of the remake of the original pants only had 1 pleat, not two, so that was unfortunate, but with some slight altering (tweaking) I can use the pants from the first suit and the second jacket and have something useful.  For my troubles, Simon has graciously offered to discount a future purchase for me, and I am considering the Rome Corporate Package, as there are several fabrics in there I like.  I am thinking though, of making use of the option to send in my suit to him and have it measured, as this should guarantee that all suits purchased from him fit just like the one I have that fits great.  Sure, I have to pay to ship it to him, and $30 for return shipping, but if that's all it costs me for a guaranteed fit and no more remakes, then I think it is worth it.  Has anyone else sent him a suit of theirs that they like?

This sums up the folly of on-line tailoring. First suit not right, remake wrong in different respects and lacking details agreed. Is it really worth it to get what at best is a compromise garment?
post #267 of 444
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I too have ordered from Simon, and we have been working out the details of my suit.  The first suit I received had a good fit in the trousers (could have had a bit more hip/thigh room), but the jacket was much too small in the chest.  I sent him some pictures and described the issue, and he agreed to remake the suit.  This time, we used measurements from a suit I have that fits well vs. body measurements.  The suit arrived and fit very well, but this time the pants were too tight, so I took the first set of pants and the second jacket and ended up with something that fits alright.  Unfortunately, the remake lacked many of the options I had specified in my original suit, such as a monogram, hand-stiched lapel, and the pants had an interesting issue: Simon had e-mailed me and told me the pants needed to be redone because the tailor did not make them with pleats.  When I received the new pants, I noticed the remake of the remake of the original pants only had 1 pleat, not two, so that was unfortunate, but with some slight altering (tweaking) I can use the pants from the first suit and the second jacket and have something useful.  For my troubles, Simon has graciously offered to discount a future purchase for me, and I am considering the Rome Corporate Package, as there are several fabrics in there I like.  I am thinking though, of making use of the option to send in my suit to him and have it measured, as this should guarantee that all suits purchased from him fit just like the one I have that fits great.  Sure, I have to pay to ship it to him, and $30 for return shipping, but if that's all it costs me for a guaranteed fit and no more remakes, then I think it is worth it.  Has anyone else sent him a suit of theirs that they like?

This sums up the folly of on-line tailoring. First suit not right, remake wrong in different respects and lacking details agreed. Is it really worth it to get what at best is a compromise garment?
post #268 of 444
This is quite an entertaining thread
post #269 of 444
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This sums up the folly of on-line tailoring. First suit not right, remake wrong in different respects and lacking details agreed. Is it really worth it to get what at best is a compromise garment?

These problems aren't exclusive to Elite however. Alot of other places like Indochino and Black Lapel suffer similar problems but what is the attractive proposition about Elite is that their suits are fully canvassed and more customisable at the price range and the lengths Simon would go towards making things right. I guess it's also good that they offer a range of different tailoring options at various price ranges and that makes them different from their competitors. 

post #270 of 444
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This sums up the folly of on-line tailoring. First suit not right, remake wrong in different respects and lacking details agreed. Is it really worth it to get what at best is a compromise garment?

The same goes for any type of mtm, retail or even bespoke. There's a reason for why good bespoke involves so many fittings. With mtm, the remakes and trips to the tailor replace the multiple fittings. Considering how much faster the turnaround for mtm is when compared to bespoke, the remake and tailor time isn't as big of a deal as people make it out to be. 

 

If you're vocal, you won't end up with a compromised garment.

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