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post #181 of 440
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

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LOVE the pockets.

No one realises that the pockets should be the most prominent feature on a suit. And they're really what makes Tom Ford TOM FORD

I really don't think I could tell the difference between that one and a real TF, unless they got close enough to recognise that your suit is actually better made!!!!!!!

LOL
post #182 of 440
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

Here's some shots of one of our "Almost Bespoke" suits.

The customer recently purchased a Tom Ford original and while he liked the style wanted a similar suit with some small changes (and without the $7,000 price tag) so he called us after a referral from a friend. You can read about the construction of the suit HERE

The customer is the CEO of a global technology company that turns over 100s of millions a year. The photos were for a cover and accompanying story in a trade magazine that would be circulated to both his clients and competitors so he wanted to look his best. Faced with the decision between his $7,000 Tom Ford or our $999 Almost Bespoke suits naturally he chose ours as he told me he thinks it's a far better suit. He emailed me when it first arrived

“I have to say I am impressed by the suit and fabric and the fit is great. I’m certainly interested in another one and the guys in the office here said they liked it so they might want a couple as well.”


High praise indeed when he's comparing our suit to a  Tom Ford original

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The pocket flaps caused us a little concern. They are the same size as the Tom Ford suit but as we reduced the lapel width I was concerned that the flaps would look a little oversized. After a bit of discussion before we made the suit the decision was made to keep them as they were as if they were too big we could easily have them reduced which would be far easier than trying to make them larger. Since these photos were taken he has had them made smaller for the small tailoring fee of $66.









The customer has since ordered another suit in a beautiful grey cloth from Taylor & Lodge Those that buy one of our range of fully hand stitched suits are the most likely to become repeat customer as they realise that they can't get this high quality of construction combined with bespoke quality fabrics elsewhere anywhere near the price.




 


Im sorry, i dont really care if your customer is the richest man in the world, if he thinks this is superior and or looks like TF then he dosent know anything about suits. First thing thats off is no trumpting in the sleeves, which is a classic TF design element. Second no Milanese button hole, third the pockets are not that huge. forth the breast pocket looks off. Mind you these are only outside features i have no idea if you even bothered with the triple canvased chest piece. Lastly if you were trying to copy the model from TF that looks closest to whatever it was you made then it DOES NOT cost 7k, its 3200 so even if you included sales tax/ vat it would be 4k max
post #183 of 440
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

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Just saw the buttons! What a fun touch !!1!!!

Like its classic with just a little twist.

Just throwing out some ideas here but have you ever tried five buttons on the front?

I'm thinking a little Steve Harvey meets Tom Ford???

If you use my idea you have to name it after me!! LOL

LOL omg i might need to skip my abdominal workout today after a few more posts like his. MORE PLEASE!
post #184 of 440
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post

Im sorry, i dont really care if your customer is the richest man in the world, if he thinks this is superior and or looks like TF then he dosent know anything about suits. First thing thats off is no trumpting in the sleeves, which is a classic TF design element. Second no Milanese button hole, third the pockets are not that huge. forth the breast pocket looks off. Mind you these are only outside features i have no idea if you even bothered with the triple canvased chest piece. Lastly if you were trying to copy the model from TF that looks closest to whatever it was you made then it DOES NOT cost 7k, its 3200 so even if you included sales tax/ vat it would be 4k max

Jeff, Y R U such a h8er??

Blind people need suits 2!!!
post #185 of 440
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

Jeff, Y R U such a h8er??

Blind people need suits 2!!!

Ok that did it. Workout done. Thank you!
post #186 of 440
O
M
G
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I didn't realise you can do Tom Ford AND Thom Browne!!!

This is like the PERFECT Mad Men suit!

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Hard 2 believe that only costs one stack.

It's tuff 2 decide which 1 I want! Maybe I'll get both LOL!!!
post #187 of 440
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post


Hard 2 believe that only costs one stack.

It's tuff 2 decide which 1 I want! Maybe I'll get both LOL!!!

TOM Ford 1 for the Board Room!
Thom BROWN one 4 the Weekend!!
post #188 of 440
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

 

Yet when you read the comments those that have actually purchased a suit you will find they are overwhelmingly positive. 

 

Here's yet another Styleforum member in his New Elite Suit.

 

He's going through the process of tweaking his measurements with every subsequent suit purchase. He has another suit that's due to arrive very soon which will fit even better than this one. I think one more adjustment then we will have his measurements close enough to perfect.

 

I have a number of customers who when they want a new suit simply send me their fabric choice and say make it just like the last one. This customer is well along the way to joining them.

Which suits are used in the "Back to Work" Special? What's the difference between those and another line (for instance, the "Beijing" line)?


Edited by VinnyMac - 4/27/13 at 9:32am
post #189 of 440
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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

350x700px-LL-a10e83a1_SF33.jpeg

LOVE the pockets.

No one realises that the pockets should be the most prominent feature on a suit. And they're really what makes Tom Ford TOM FORD

I really don't think I could tell the difference between that one and a real TF, unless they got close enough to recognise that your suit is actually better made!!!!!!!

 

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

TF5.jpg

Just saw the buttons! What a fun touch !!1!!!

Like its classic with just a little twist.

Just throwing out some ideas here but have you ever tried five buttons on the front?

I'm thinking a little Steve Harvey meets Tom Ford???

If you use my idea you have to name it after me!! LOL

Never been asked for a five button suit but I promise if I ever am I'll call it the "Cantabrigian cut"

 

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Originally Posted by Cantabrigian View Post

350x700px-LL-a10e83a1_SF33.jpeg

LOVE the pockets.

No one realises that the pockets should be the most prominent feature on a suit. And they're really what makes Tom Ford TOM FORD

I really don't think I could tell the difference between that one and a real TF, unless they got close enough to recognise that your suit is actually better made!!!!!!!

 

You're right. The fabric is a better quality and the tailoring a higher standard than the original. Perhaps the most important part is that the price tag was $999 compared to $7,000 for what, in the customers eyes, is a better suit

 

As we narrowed the lapels a little we thought the size of the pockets through the suit off a little bit so we had them made slightly smaller. While the design was inspired by the original Tom Ford there were some changes made. So the customer was able to keep those aspects of the design he liked while changing those he was less happy with. He was so happy with the result he now prefers to wear this suit over the Tom Ford and has since ordered another in a Taylor & Lodge cloth.

 

Despite the people who find it so easy to post criticism without ever having even tried one of our suits, more and more people are realising that they can buy extremely high quality fabrics and world class tailoring at a fraction of the price they would pay elsewhere. Accordingly we are selling more and more of our high end suits at $999 and above;

 

In the last two days we have sold one of our Taylor & Lodge fabric suits for $2,495 as well as an Ausfine suit at the "Rockstars & Royalty" tailoring package for $2,599 which despite being the most expensive suit on the site is actually the best bargain of all.

 

When you consider that over 90% of suits sold online are for less than $500, selling suits for $2,500 each is a fantastic achievement for an independent operator and something I'm very proud of

post #190 of 440
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post


Im sorry, i dont really care if your customer is the richest man in the world, if he thinks this is superior and or looks like TF then he dosent know anything about suits. First thing thats off is no trumpting in the sleeves, which is a classic TF design element. Second no Milanese button hole, third the pockets are not that huge. forth the breast pocket looks off. Mind you these are only outside features i have no idea if you even bothered with the triple canvased chest piece. Lastly if you were trying to copy the model from TF that looks closest to whatever it was you made then it DOES NOT cost 7k, its 3200 so even if you included sales tax/ vat it would be 4k max

I think you're missing the point. This was never intended to be an exact copy of a Tom Ford suit. While it retained some of the design features it was made to what the customer wanted and included some significant changes to the original. If the customer wanted trumpting in the sleeves or a Milanese buttonhole he would have asked for it. That he didn't means it wasn;t n important feature of the suit he wanted'

 

The end result is that the customer received the suit that he designed and he was so happy with it he ordered another'

 

Is it a superior suit? Well once again that's in the eye of the beholder. What one person likes may be completely different to what someone else wants in his suit. We imported the fabric ourselves from one of the world's great clothmakers in England. While the fabric in the Tom Ford suit was nice one touch of this fabric we used would convince even the most skeptical of it's superiority. The suit was individually hand made by a tailor that only makes bespoke quality suits. Over 4,000 stitches each done by hand in the same way suits were made for 100s of years. This is world class tailoring at it's best. Mass production is great for consistency but if you want a great suit then hand made is the way to go.

 

The canvas we used is a special canvas designed for the lighter weight wools used today and is made by a company in Northern England that has been making suit canvas for more than a century and supplies most of the tailors on Savile Row. We imported the canvas ourselves direct from the distributor in England.

 

As for the price, the customer tells me that the local Tom Ford distributor in Sydney sells the suit for just over $7,000 and Sydney is a very expensive city for anything. Don't forget, this was MTM not off the rack

 

The only important thing is that the customer got the suit with the features he wanted in the standard of both cloth and tailoring we promised. He believes it is a superior suit at a fraction of the price and that's all that matters.

 

As I said what someone likes in a suit is very much up to the individual. After seeing this suit on the blog one person emailed me and said that he wanted a suit exactly like it. He eventually ordered one in a Clissolds Prince of Wales fabric in our "Rockstars & Royalty tailoring standard for $1,299 which we have since delivered. He's working with a local tailor who is giving the suit a small tweak to get that final close to perfect fit (at a cost of less than $100 Canadian). He has promised to send me pictures of the final suit which I can't wait to see as it should be a beautiful suit and he is now in the process of ordering another


Edited by Simon at Elite - 4/27/13 at 1:48pm
post #191 of 440
Thread Starter 

Another email from Huddersfield cloth with some incredible fabric bargains.

 

Seeing we sold two suits in the week before I'm a little surprised no took advantage of the last offering when in my opinion there were some far nicer fabrics being offered. I also think there are some great fabrics in this email some of which are selling for one sixth of their normal prices. This allows us to sell suits we would normally sell for $2,199 even at our normal heavily discounted prices for only $999. This would not cover the normal price of the wool alone at a tailors

 

Someone with the expenses of running a tailoring store could never exist on our margins and would need to charge at least double to survive. So what we're really looking at here is a suit that you could easily pay more than $4,000 for at only $999. This brings world class fabrics and tailoring into the range of the average suit buyer and for those looking for a high end suit at a fantastic value for money price is an opportunity not to be missed.

 

Here are the latest offerings

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

post #192 of 440
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

I think you're missing the point. This was never intended to be an exact copy of a Tom Ford suit. While it retained some of the design features it was made to what the customer wanted and included some significant changes to the original. If the customer wanted trumpting in the sleeves or a Milanese buttonhole he would have asked for it. That he didn't means it wasn;t n important feature of the suit he wanted'

The end result is that the customer received the suit that he designed and he was so happy with it he ordered another'

Is it a superior suit? Well once again that's in the eye of the beholder. What one person likes may be completely different to what someone else wants in his suit. We imported the fabric ourselves from one of the world's great clothmakers in England. While the fabric in the Tom Ford suit was nice one touch of this fabric we used would convince even the most skeptical of it's superiority. The suit was individually hand made by a tailor that only makes bespoke quality suits. Over 4,000 stitches each done by hand in the same way suits were made for 100s of years. This is world class tailoring at it's best. Mass production is great for consistency but if you want a great suit then hand made is the way to go.


The canvas we used is a special canvas designed for the lighter weight wools used today and is made by a company in Northern England that has been making suit canvas for more than a century and supplies most of the tailors on Savile Row. We imported the canvas ourselves direct from the distributor in England.


As for the price, the customer tells me that the local Tom Ford distributor in Sydney sells the suit for just over $7,000 and Sydney is a very expensive city for anything. Don't forget, this was MTM not off the rack


The only important thing is that the customer got the suit with the features he wanted in the standard of both cloth and tailoring we promised. He believes it is a superior suit at a fraction of the price and that's all that matters.

I think you are extraordinarily misguided about who is missing the point.
post #193 of 440
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Originally Posted by manchambo View Post


I think you are extraordinarily misguided about who is missing the point.

Don't you just love the internet? It makes it so easy to make useless criticism from the sidelines.

 

The customer got the exact suit he wanted, retaining some of the features of the original suit and changing others. It's in a better fabric and a higher standard of tailoring. He likes it so much it's now his preferred suit and has since ordered another. Isn't that the outcome that both the seller and customer desired? Or do you have some suggestion on just what I should have done differently?

 

If he simply wanted a copy of the Tom Ford suit I could have just sent the suit to the tailors with instructions to make an exact copy of the suit. The tailors have the experience and skills to do just that but that wasn't the suit the customer wanted.

 

However,as I said right from the start the suit may have inspired by Tom Ford it was never intended to be a straight knockoff.

 

So perhaps instead of simply making pithy statements you might explain why you happen to I'm misguided when I have delivered exactly the suit the customer wanted.

post #194 of 440
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Originally Posted by jeff13007 View Post


LOL

 

This suit doesn't look bad for $999...but better than Tom Ford?  No.  

post #195 of 440
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

Don't you just love the internet? It makes it so easy to make useless criticism from the sidelines.

The customer got the exact suit he wanted, retaining some of the features of the original suit and changing others. It's in a better fabric and a higher standard of tailoring. He likes it so much it's now his preferred suit and has since ordered another. Isn't that the outcome that both the seller and customer desired?

If he simply wanted an copy of the Tom Ford suit I could have just sent the suit to the tailors with instructions to make an exact copy of the suit. The tailors have the experience and skills to do just that but that wasn't the suit the customer wanted.

So perhaps instead of simply making pithy statements you might explain why you happen to I'm misguided when I have delivered exactly the suit the customer wanted.

It might not hurt your image if you tried, at least once, to make a pithy comment.

You are misguided because you blithely say that this guy's suit doesn't have the high end features for which me would purchase a Tom Ford because he didn't want them, yet try to sell us on the idea that he thinks the suit is better than a Tom Ford. I would bet that he doesn't know what a Milanese buttonhole is. That's fine. A lot of people don't. But I'm not going to rely on that person's judgment to conclude that his ugly, mismatched suit is better than one of the best available, because he obviously doesn't know what he's talking about.
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