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post #16 of 404

It certainly looks like the marketing department is up to something...I'm not sure about $398..is that on a discounted price? It would be great to provide picture of your sample suit as reference.

post #17 of 404
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Originally Posted by TheWraith View Post

Simon...you talk too much. Your posts, each and every one of them, are way too long. You're the Kim Beazley of the fashion world. You're far too verbose. You need to learn how to say what you want to say with less. It can be done. You need to learn this vital skill.

I agree completely.

Less talk, more "steak"

The sell the sizzle crap works in the mall and the street...not here
post #18 of 404
Agreed. The walls of text, bad website layout and incessant hyperlinks, really make me question the value of the product being put out.

For an idea of how to produce a decent suit ordering website, take a look at Cad and the Dandy. Say what you will about their suits (I've personally never bought from them) but the website design is great.

If your suits are as good as you say they are, you should not be cutting corners in the marketing presentation. It makes people think you're cutting corners elsewhere.
post #19 of 404
Wow, that website is way too wordy. I know there's a disclaimer to that effect but all you're doing is making the consumer have a lot of 2nd guesses about the quality of your product.

Great products speak for themselves. They don't need 6 paragraphs about how much they'd cost elsewhere etc. etc.

This website reads exactly like those sham sites for things such stock market picks or wonder drugs where customer reviews are bolded, highlighted, and thrown in your face. But guess what? Anyone could've written it.

There may be some good bargains on here - but there are just way too many red flags for me to take a chance.
post #20 of 404

From these banners I'd think you were selling zex toys!

 

post #21 of 404
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

 

Here at Elite Suits the plan is to reverse that decline. Those that want a better suit can now have their suits made by real tailors using a full canvas and select the quality of wool they want for their suit. While I accept the criticism here is entirely valid, you would be surprised on how many emails I receive saying how much they love the site and the ability to put together exactly the suit they want and have it made to the standard they desire. The traffic and sales for the quarter just ended are both up by over 50% compared to the same time last year over a not exactly insubstantial base. We are a successful company and sell a significant number of suits every month, not as many as the big operators of course but still many more than a lot of other similar websites in a market that is becoming very crowded.

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Simon,

 

If your product really is of halfway decent quality I applaud your attempt at giving a high quality product at reasonable rates however I would be somewhat cautious for a couple of reason in which I will use sweeping generalizations but I think ring true.

 

1. The average guy who wants to spend $400 on a suit has neither the desire nor the wherewithal to search you out rather than go to Macy's or JCP


2. The Average guy who spends $400 on a suit doesn't understand what a "nicer suit" is and likely wont understand why canvasing makes anything a better value

 

3. Many shoppers outside of SF believe quality comes from a label (or in conjunction with a label) and would probably rather buy Alfani than a no-name internet brand.

 

4. Most people who don't understand the details of suiting think that a higher price corresponds to a higher quality product so you will likely lose those potential customers.

 

That leaves your target audience pretty slim. People who understand suiting enough to want canvassing, who care enough about their appearance to spend the time to take measurements and wait for a MTM experience, can only spend a few hundred dollars, and aren't familiar with the SF Buy/Sell forum where deals on known brands can be had for that price.

 

 

Finally -  your model has both buttons buttoned on his 2-button suit... really?

post #22 of 404
Thread Starter 

Hi Mzhammer and thanks for your feedback. However may I point out that despite every one of the perfectly valid criticisms above in the thread that

 

  • Over 90% of web based business fail in their first year and we have just celebrated our second anniversary
  • Our sales continue to grow every month
  • We get a considerable amount of repeat business with many customers onto their third or fourth suit

 

That there are at least some people who really want a better quality suit at a value for money price and something far better than they can buy at Macy's or JCP for the same price. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either as we do sell many suits over the $1,000 mark with one recent sale at $2.299. 

 

As for your last point, I just don't know

post #23 of 404
Your sales are growing. Good. They'd no doubt be higher still if you had even a decent website. This is a priority/necessity, not just something to talk about possibly doing in the future. Good websites aren't hard to do. Not anymore. Yours, as it currently stands, looks like a 1998 Geocities monstrosity.
post #24 of 404

These guys aren't trolling. They are offering some pretty decent advice. Even if the website as is were defensible (it isn't), the fact that so many knowledgeable people are telling you the same thing should be enough for you to reconsider your approach. 

 

It wouldn't be an expensive overhaul. They aren't criticizing your supply chain or anything. Take the advice, fix the website, and enjoy more success.
 

Also, take a look at your affiliate avatar/logo and compare it to the others (eHaberdasher, Kent Wang, Shop the Finest, etc). There is a disparity in quality and presentation there.

post #25 of 404

I'd imagine I'm pretty young compared to most of you, I own one suit and I got it from elitesuits. It cost me $299 (and I got a nice deal on some custom shirts with it) and as far as I can tell it's a decent suit, but I don't actually know anything about suits so it could be crap. Would some photos be of any benefit to any of you? How much can be told about a suit from photos?

And yes, the website needs work. Regardless of good intent concentrating efforts elsewhere, people are awful judgemental and lazy, if they think navigating a website is too much effort then poof goes a potential buyer and you know they'll never come back, and they certainly won't ever realise what they're missing out on.

 

Simon
(A different one)

post #26 of 404
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Originally Posted by Claghorn View Post

These guys aren't trolling. They are offering some pretty decent advice. Even if the website as is were defensible (it isn't), the fact that so many knowledgeable people are telling you the same thing should be enough for you to reconsider your approach. 

It wouldn't be an expensive overhaul. They aren't criticizing your supply chain or anything. Take the advice, fix the website, and enjoy more success.

 
Also, take a look at your affiliate avatar/logo and compare it to the others (eHaberdasher, Kent Wang, Shop the Finest, etc). There is a disparity in quality and presentation there.

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Originally Posted by Martinet 
I'd imagine I'm pretty young compared to most of you, I own one suit and I got it from elitesuits. It cost me $299 (and I got a nice deal on some custom shirts with it) and as far as I can tell it's a decent suit, but I don't actually know anything about suits so it could be crap. Would some photos be of any benefit to any of you? How much can be told about a suit from photos?

And yes, the website needs work. Regardless of good intent concentrating efforts elsewhere, people are awful judgemental and lazy, if they think navigating a website is too much effort then poof goes a potential buyer and you know they'll never come back, and they certainly won't ever realise what they're missing out on.



Simon
(A different one)

Trust us, Martinet. We know what we're talking about here.
post #27 of 404
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Originally Posted by Martinet View Post

I'd imagine I'm pretty young compared to most of you, I own one suit and I got it from elitesuits. It cost me $299 (and I got a nice deal on some custom shirts with it) and as far as I can tell it's a decent suit, but I don't actually know anything about suits so it could be crap. Would some photos be of any benefit to any of you? How much can be told about a suit from photos?


And yes, the website needs work. Regardless of good intent concentrating efforts elsewhere, people are awful judgemental and lazy, if they think navigating a website is too much effort then poof goes a potential buyer and you know they'll never come back, and they certainly won't ever realise what they're missing out on.

Simon

(A different one)

Welcome to Styleforum.
post #28 of 404

Thanks. And Wraith, sorry if you took that as me questioning the community here. What I meant was, if you like and if it would be beneficial at all, I can put up some photos of what I have to aid your judgement.

post #29 of 404
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Originally Posted by Simon at Elite View Post

 

That there are at least some people who really want a better quality suit at a value for money price and something far better than they can buy at Macy's or JCP for the same price. This doesn't necessarily mean cheap either as we do sell many suits over the $1,000 mark with one recent sale at $2.299. 

 

I beleave that I am that one person that bought a suit valued at $2.229 from Simon

 

First as my main aim was to buy a suit I did not notice that the site was as tacky as some are saying it is as I was more interested in seeing what was on offer at the site.

 

Myself I knew very little about buying Suits as I do not need one in the work place, but I know more now than I did a month ago when I first started looking at options for buying a new Suit.  
 
This copyed from what I posted else where as I am lazy and quite busy.
 
This will be my first Suit it is for special occasions so I thought it might as well be the best I can afford, so this is what I have come up with
I have decided to buy a suit from http://www.elitesuits.com after reading through this thread ( http://forums.whirlp...16&p=-1 )I took MR Crankys advice and at least checked the site out as he is a man of great knowledge on the subject, I then started emailing Simon at elite suits gaining more knowledge on suits
The Suit I have decided to get is one from the Ausfine range if you read their information on this range you will discover that the Wool used is some of the best in the World for suits.
 
 
Yes I took my first suit buying advice from a telecomunications site rotflmao.gif
 
I have not recived the suit yet as I only ordered I little while ago when it dose arrive I will be happy to post photos of the suit here for judgement 
post #30 of 404
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Originally Posted by Martinet View Post

Thanks. And Wraith, sorry if you took that as me questioning the community here. What I meant was, if you like and if it would be beneficial at all, I can put up some photos of what I have to aid your judgement.


I think he meant to trust the SF community...they'll be able to tell from the pictures about the quality of the suit.

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