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Best suit quality and fit for under $1000

post #1 of 21
Thread Starter 

Hi Styleforum,

 

Can any of the veterans weigh in with their opinions? While it's easy to throw out some of the super luxury brands as being of superior quality in terms of fabric, style and fit, who gets it right for under $1000?

 

I know that there are a lot of options in and around that price point, but I have a suspicion that there is a wide range of how well different brands deliver on those key criteria for the same money.

 

Please share...I'm all ears.

 

TJK

post #2 of 21

It would be an amazing coincidence if someone had made another thread on this exact topic within the last week or so, wouldn't it? 

 

Recommended Suit For $1,000 - Suggestions On Brand Or MTM ($1,000 Budget)

and what if there were a list of suit brand compiled according to quality?

http://www.styleforum.net/t/140387/the-styleforum-working-hierarchical-suit-quality-list-sfwhsql/0_20

 

Oh well, I'm glad to see that you came up with a creative and original idea for a thread; looking forward to seeing the results!

 


*edited to reflect the thread having been started 1 week, 4 days ago

post #3 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by SpiffEngineer View Post

It would be an amazing coincidence if someone had made another thread on this exact topic within the last week or so, wouldn't it? 

 

Recommended Suit For $1,000 - Suggestions On Brand Or MTM ($1,000 Budget)

and what if there were a list of suit brand compiled according to quality?

http://www.styleforum.net/t/140387/the-styleforum-working-hierarchical-suit-quality-list-sfwhsql/0_20

 

Oh well, I'm glad to see that you came up with a creative and original idea for a thread; looking forward to seeing the results!

 


*edited to reflect the thread having been started 1 week, 4 days ago

Thanks for your thoughts SpiffEngineer. I'm having a little trouble getting through your post, so I'll run it through my Sarcastic Asshole Translator software...

 

Okay, here it is. Apparently what you are trying to say would read something like this, assuming it was written by a somewhat thoughtful and normal person, rather than a sarcastic asshole:

 

Hi TorontoJK. Welcome to styleforum.net - congratulations on joining today and making your first post! As a courtesy, I'd like to point out that another one of our members started a similar thread within that past fortnight, so you can probably find some helpful tips on that particular price range of suit without having to wait for others to reply to your post. FYI - some of the members on this forum seem to enjoy jumping all over an OP if they happen to share the same thought as one of the other thousands of members on the forum. So, just a heads up, but it can turn into a real catfight on here - MEOW! if you catch the wrong person cruising your thread. LOL! So, I hope that you'll find the answer that you were looking for on these previous threads. If you still aren't finding what you need, feel free to PM me and I'll try to help in whatever way that I can. We are a real community on here, and generally the members try to help each other out - why wouldn't they? Anyways, good luck and happy shopping!

 

SpiffEngineer

 

Now, I know translation software is always a bit of a crapshoot - but I'm going to assume you're not as big a douchebag as you sounded. Thanks for the help!

post #4 of 21
Relax. The point is that it is difficult if not impossible to answer your question. There are many, many threads here that tackle this issue in one format or another. It would do you good to read through them and absorb as much as you can. There is a lot to learn but it is fun.
post #5 of 21
Welcome to the forum.

I read that post - I must have missed it when it was originally posted. I didn't see one brand mentioned, so I am going to suggest you look at Jack Victor. They carry them at my local menswear store and while I haven't purcased one of their suits, I have purchased a couple of their sport coats and some of their slacks and they are very nice. The suits run about $700-$800.

I understand they are manufactured in Canada, so you should be able to find them in Toronto.

Chris
post #6 of 21
Welcome to the forum TorontoJK.

It is a two edged sword trying to introduce yourself.

On the one hand you cannot start a thread covering the "hello it is me..." angle. On the other hand, a new member will struggle to find an original thread idea since they have all been done before and beaten to death.

It is usually a common courtesy that before starting a new thread, members (even long standing members) use the search facility to pull out relevant information. However, with you being new, I suspect you never even thought of doing a forum search.

Despite SpiffEngineer's less than friendly demeanor towards you, he did implicitly answer your questions with those two links.

Hope to see you hanging around here.

Oh yeah, you may be able to source Samuelsohn suits for around the 1K mark. Made in Canada, fully canvassed, and largely a good all round entry level suit. Many folks here swear by them and consider that Samuelsohn is a good step up from Brooks Brothers 1818, Ralph Lauren Polo, and most if not all lower scale department store offerings (i.e. Boss / Abboud / CK etc ...).
post #7 of 21
Are you looking to buy locally, travel to NYC or buy online? Makes a difference in terms of selection. Are you looking to pay retail or are you looking for sales to extend your $1000 buying power? Klobber ha a good point regarding Samuelsohn. Pretty good quality and value for a well made fully canvassed suit. Good selection available in Toronto. A variety of cuts to choose from. Not sure what the starting point is for them in Canada. Harry Rosen JP Tilford is also made by Samuelsohn. Coppley isn't bad; half-canvassed, MTO options and readily available in Toronto. Jack Victor is a slight step down from Coppley. Read the threads suggested by your new friend. Have you checked out the Holt outlet in Vaughn Mills? Sometimes good deals are to be had.

If you travel, say to NYC, there is far more availability of brands, sales and options for MTM e.g. Suit Supply. I'm assuming you want to try something on in person rather than taking a flier on hoping to match your measurements online.

There are many threads and heed the advice to invest some time reading various threads to help guide you.

Welcome to the forum.
post #8 of 21

I know it is sometimes difficult to figure out how the forum works but for future threads first try styleforum 101 than the search engine and if then something is unclear create a new thread. The question has already been answered by spiffengineer. Just read through those two threads and you should find an answer.

post #9 of 21
Spiffengineer gave you a great answer, OP.
post #10 of 21
Thread Starter 

Yes, SpiffEngineer gave me a great answer, buried underneath the unnecessary sarcasm. I thought his reply was a bit much so I thought I'd bring attention to it, but my response was meant to be humourous as well - I'll read those threads for sure.

post #11 of 21
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by gsugsu View Post

Are you looking to buy locally, travel to NYC or buy online? Makes a difference in terms of selection. Are you looking to pay retail or are you looking for sales to extend your $1000 buying power? Klobber ha a good point regarding Samuelsohn. Pretty good quality and value for a well made fully canvassed suit. Good selection available in Toronto. A variety of cuts to choose from. Not sure what the starting point is for them in Canada. Harry Rosen JP Tilford is also made by Samuelsohn. Coppley isn't bad; half-canvassed, MTO options and readily available in Toronto. Jack Victor is a slight step down from Coppley. Read the threads suggested by your new friend. Have you checked out the Holt outlet in Vaughn Mills? Sometimes good deals are to be had.
If you travel, say to NYC, there is far more availability of brands, sales and options for MTM e.g. Suit Supply. I'm assuming you want to try something on in person rather than taking a flier on hoping to match your measurements online.
There are many threads and heed the advice to invest some time reading various threads to help guide you.
Welcome to the forum.

Thanks for the welcome gsugsu. I was assuming to pay retail here in Toronto, but of course will look for sales if possible. The last 4 or 5 suits that I've bought have all been Hugo Boss and I figured that was a safe bet for under $1000. At the Boss flagship store here in Toronto the salesman told me that they use a floating canvas in their jackets for the suits sold through their own stores (whereas I would assume fused elsewhere). I bought a basic black Boss Jam/Sharp suit and wore it to death over the past couple of years. I liked the cut but need to replace it (and also need a more up to date navy suit) and before I head back to Boss to buy 2 more, I thought I'd do some research online.  I've been surprised at the poor reviews Boss seems to get for their suits in this and other forums, hence my question.  I'll check out JP Tilford and Coppley, assuming I can find a slimmer cut in those brands. I've always thought of them as a bit more stodgy in their styling. Thanks again.

post #12 of 21
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Originally Posted by TorontoJK View Post

Yes, SpiffEngineer gave me a great answer, buried underneath the unnecessary sarcasm. I thought his reply was a bit much so I thought I'd bring attention to it, but my response was meant to be humourous as well - I'll read those threads for sure.

Since you are in T.O. If you are looking for something more modern, two options you might want to keep in mind...

-Suit Supply will be coming to Toronto in early 2013
-J Crew men store will be in Eaton's Center next month
-Club Monaco
post #13 of 21
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Originally Posted by bellyhungry View Post

Since you are in T.O. If you are looking for something more modern, two options you might want to keep in mind...
-Suit Supply will be coming to Toronto in early 2013
-J Crew men store will be in Eaton's Center next month
-Club Monaco

If you have time then checking out Suit Supply when they come to T.O. This would be a great option
post #14 of 21

I got a Brooks Brothers 1818 Fitzgerald - I didn't buy it on sale since time was an issue, but it still came out to ~$750 with discounts.  I could have gotten it cheaper on sale, but it is a pretty nice suit and I'm very happy with it at the price I paid.

post #15 of 21
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Originally Posted by TorontoJK View Post

While it's easy to throw out some of the super luxury brands as being of superior quality in terms of fabric, style and fit, who gets it right for under $1000?

The answer is "it depends", is it not? Who is buying and what do they want? MTM services at that price point can probably deliver good quality and fit, but the results will be better for people who know enough to constructively participate in the process, and if you don't know what you're looking for there is a risk of ending up with something pretty awful or that will look dated very quickly. On the other hand, if someone who knows absolutely nothing walks into Brooks Brothers and just lets the salesperson and tailor do what they do, they may not get the best theoretical value but the probability they end up with something horrific is approximately 0, and odds are better than even they will walk out with a perfectly decent suit that will age very well. Also, some people are lucky enough to find a particular cut from a particular brand that just fits their body very well OTR, and others are not so lucky. For different people the brands that provide "superior fit" will be very, very different.

So who is asking the question? A person looking for their very first suit, or a style expert on a specific budget? Tall, short, fat, skinny, muscular, big butt or flat butt, wide hips or narrow hips, broad shouldered or narrow shouldered? Old or young, conservative or flashy? Etc., etc., etc.

The more I learn here the less I know. YMMV.
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