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post #2176 of 2339
I think the confusion stems from the fact that non-EU orders, with shipping added on, looks almost the same price as EU prices which includes the VAT.
I believe Antonio's site works perfectly.
post #2177 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ThunderMarch View Post

I think the confusion stems from the fact that non-EU orders, with shipping added on, looks almost the same price as EU prices which includes the VAT.
I believe Antonio's site works perfectly.

 

Well I don't presume to speak for others, the confusion lies with the way the webshop is set out. 

When I select a particular model, this message appears: "Price includes VAT (For non EU customers the VAT is removed during checkout) Stock shoes are made to a “E” fitting which is our Standard width, but can be ordered in different widths".

 

Yet, no VAT is removed during checkout, and shipping added on instead.

post #2178 of 2339
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Originally Posted by saepnirg12 View Post

Well I don't presume to speak for others, the confusion lies with the way the webshop is set out. 
When I select a particular model, this message appears: "Price includes VAT (For non EU customers the VAT is removed during checkout) Stock shoes are made to a “E” fitting which is our Standard width, but can be ordered in different widths".


Yet, no VAT is removed during checkout, and shipping added on instead.

What model did you choose, and what price was reflected in your shopping cart?
post #2179 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ThunderMarch View Post


What model did you choose, and what price was reflected in your shopping cart?

 

Principes from the RTW line.

 

It shows 409.84eur in the shopping cart, excluding shipped charges.

post #2180 of 2339
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Originally Posted by saepnirg12 View Post

Well I don't presume to speak for others, the confusion lies with the way the webshop is set out. 
When I select a particular model, this message appears: "Price includes VAT (For non EU customers the VAT is removed during checkout) Stock shoes are made to a “E” fitting which is our Standard width, but can be ordered in different widths".


Yet, no VAT is removed during checkout, and shipping added on instead.
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Originally Posted by saepnirg12 View Post

Principes from the RTW line.

It shows 409.84eur in the shopping cart, excluding shipped charges.

i think i found out
what is causing teh
confusion....
i entered the site
using proxies
for different
countries outside
teh european union
(eg us, australia, etc)
and the price displayed
has the vat
automatically removed..

eg the principes
model in the eu is 500 euro
and outside is 409.84 euro

i sent antonio
an email to change
his text description
post #2181 of 2339
Quote:
Originally Posted by saepnirg12 View Post

Principes from the RTW line.

It shows 409.84eur in the shopping cart, excluding shipped charges.


As mentioned by t4 and other members on the thread. 409.84 euros already excludes the VAT.
post #2182 of 2339
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Originally Posted by Swede66 View Post

I suggest same size as in EG 82. Works fine for me.
UK or US?
post #2183 of 2339
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Originally Posted by gyasih View Post

UK or US?
Can you buy EG in US size?
Anyway, EG UK size, Meccariello UK size. According to Antonio he used EG 202 as a size reference.
post #2184 of 2339
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Originally Posted by Swede66 View Post

Can you buy EG in US size?
Anyway, EG UK size, Meccariello UK size. According to Antonio he used EG 202 as a size reference.

Of course not.

Thank you
post #2185 of 2339

I just received Antonio's stuff... 

I've already shared some pics of the chukkas and doublemonks. 

So today I'll talk about his Argentum RTW stuff. 

I'd gotten the Principes (Hawksbill last)

 

 

 

 

Uppers - I am not sure what tannery he uses for his RTW line, but the uppers feel tremendously supple right out the box. Comparing them to my Argentum HW shoes, the uppers feel somewhat thinner (though only very minimally), but this is not a big issue IMO. 

 

Closing / clicking - Very clean and uniform throughout. Closing is really neatly done over the entire shoe. Double row stitching over the captoe and along the eyelets and at the upper aspect of the quarters. The brogueing is also very clean and evenly done. 

 

Last - I find the Hawksbill last to be very well proportioned. It has a fairly slim silhouette and a gradual taper. It is remniscent (shape wise) somewhat of the Inca (Carmina) last but I wouldn't describe this as almond toed. I haven't worn them yet, as I was running late for work, so I can't comment on the fit as yet. 

 

Design - This is one of my favourite adelaide designs to date. Some adelaides have the lower end of the facings markedly "flared out" which I find rather ugly. The curves on this pair give a very well balanced, classic aesthetic.

 

Outsole - The waist is beveled somewhat, similar in appearance to the Argentum HW waist, but it isn't as tightly done as say, his Aurum line, of course. The outsole stitching can still be seen on close observation. The outer edge of the outsole is not "rolled" over the welt to hide the stitching at the waist. Overall still very nicely done. 

The waist is also fiddlebacked. and really nicely done as well. 

The outsole stitching is tight and neat, and the welt pricking as well. As nicely done as his Argentum HW. 

There is also notch between the heel stack and the waist. A feature I've always liked. 

 

The hand antiqueing is also just gorgeous, icing on the cake. Tastefully done and not garish at all.

 

One flaw that I do see though, is that the leather quality may be inconsistent. It was somewhat veiny over the quarters of one of the shoes (not very marked, but noticeable on close inspection). Given the quality of the shoes otherwise, and the innovation of his construction technique, and the price of his shoes, I think this is a reasonable trade-off. He does need to cut with some economy. 

 

Overall impressions are still very very positive. They're definitely a big step up from his test shoes (GYW), and fill a gap in between those, and his Argentum HW line.

 

The attention to detail is remarkable, the finishing is commendable, the materials more than decent, the lasts are extremely nice, and his new construction method is well thought out and brings machine welted shoes one step closer to handwelted stuff. 

 

I'm a bit of a basketball fan, and when I talk about it, I say one thing very often.... That I am proud and honoured to have lived in a time where I could watch Michael Jordan play basketball.

Well, right now, I can say that I am also proud to have lived in a time where Antonio Meccariello made shoes... and I got to wear them.


Edited by ThunderMarch - 8/8/16 at 12:27am
post #2186 of 2339
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Originally Posted by ThunderMarch View Post


As mentioned by t4 and other members on the thread. 409.84 euros already excludes the VAT.

 

 

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Originally Posted by T4phage View Post



i think i found out
what is causing teh
confusion....
i entered the site
using proxies
for different
countries outside
teh european union
(eg us, australia, etc)
and the price displayed
has the vat
automatically removed..

eg the principes
model in the eu is 500 euro
and outside is 409.84 euro

i sent antonio
an email to change
his text description

 

Thanks for the clarification.

post #2187 of 2339
Quote:
Originally Posted by ThunderMarch View Post
 

I just received Antonio's stuff... 

I've already shared some pics of the chukkas and doublemonks. 

So today I'll talk about his Argentum RTW stuff. 

I'd gotten the Principes (Hawksbill last)

 

Uppers - I am not sure what tannery he uses for his RTW line, but the uppers feel tremendously supple right out the box. Comparing them to my Argentum HW shoes, the uppers feel somewhat thinner (though only very minimally), but this is not a big issue IMO. 

 

Closing / clicking - Very clean and uniform throughout. Closing is really neatly done over the entire shoe. Double row stitching over the captoe and along the eyelets and at the upper aspect of the quarters. The brogueing is also very clean and evenly done. 

 

Last - I find the Hawksbill last to be very well proportioned. It has a fairly slim silhouette and a gradual taper. It is remniscent (shape wise) somewhat of the Inca (Carmina) last but I wouldn't describe this as almond toed. I haven't worn them yet, as I was running late for work, so I can't comment on the fit as yet. 

 

Design - This is one of my favourite adelaide designs to date. Some adelaides have the lower end of the facings markedly "flared out" which I find rather ugly. The curves on this pair give a very well balanced, classic aesthetic.

 

Outsole - The waist is beveled somewhat, similar in appearance to the Argentum HW waist, but it isn't as tightly done as say, his Aurum line, of course. The outsole stitching can still be seen on close observation. The outer edge of the outsole is not "rolled" over the welt to hide the stitching at the waist. Overall still very nicely done. 

The waist is also fiddlebacked. and really nicely done as well. 

The outsole stitching is tight and neat, and the welt pricking as well. As nicely done as his Argentum HW. 

There is also notch between the heel stack and the waist. A feature I've always liked. 

 

The hand antiqueing is also just gorgeous, icing on the cake. Tastefully done and not garish at all.

 

One flaw that I do see though, is that the leather quality may be inconsistent. It was somewhat veiny over the quarters of one of the shoes (not very marked, but noticeable on close inspection). Given the quality of the shoes otherwise, and the innovation of his construction technique, and the price of his shoes, I think this is a reasonable trade-off. He does need to cut with some economy. 

 

Overall impressions are still very very positive. They're definitely a big step up from his test shoes (GYW), and fill a gap in between those, and his Argentum HW line.

 

The attention to detail is remarkable, the finishing is commendable, the materials more than decent, the lasts are extremely nice, and his new construction method is well thought out and brings machine welted shoes one step closer to handwelted stuff. 

 

I'm a bit of a basketball fan, and when I talk about it, I say one thing very often.... That I am proud and honoured to have lived in a time where I could watch Michael Jordan play basketball.

Well, right now, I can say that I am also proud to have lived in a time where Antonio Meccariello made shoes... and I got to wear them.

 

Fantastic write-up. Looking forward to your thoughts on the fit!

post #2188 of 2339

Thanks @ThunderMarch

 

" Design - This is one of my favourite adelaide designs to date. Some adelaides have the lower end of the facings markedly "flared out" which I find rather ugly. The curves on this pair give a very well balanced, classic aesthetic. "

 

I share exactly the same sentiments with regards to the facing, and that is what will eventually drive me t get the Principes as my first AM shoes.

post #2189 of 2339
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Originally Posted by urban View Post
 

Thanks @ThunderMarch

 

" Design - This is one of my favourite adelaide designs to date. Some adelaides have the lower end of the facings markedly "flared out" which I find rather ugly. The curves on this pair give a very well balanced, classic aesthetic. "

 

I share exactly the same sentiments with regards to the facing, and that is what will eventually drive me t get the Principes as my first AM shoes.


It's funny, but this is the very reason why I was never crazy about the GG St. James, to the contrary of public opinion. It seems a little garish and exaggerated to me. Antonio's version is much more tasteful.

 

So @ThunderMarch thank you very much for such a detailed review! I really appreciate your thoughts and experience. In your opinion, what is it about the RTW shoe that makes it a step up from the test shoes? The examples of the latter that I've seen (not having tried any, admittedly) seem similar in quality.

 

PS, have you worn your saddles yet??

post #2190 of 2339
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Originally Posted by peppercorn78 View Post


It's funny, but this is the very reason why I was never crazy about the GG St. James, to the contrary of public opinion. It seems a little garish and exaggerated to me. Antonio's version is much more tasteful.

So @ThunderMarch
 thank you very much for such a detailed review! I really appreciate your thoughts and experience. In your opinion, what is it about the RTW shoe that makes it a step up from the test shoes? The examples of the latter that I've seen (not having tried any, admittedly) seem similar in quality.

PS, have you worn your saddles yet??

The superior construction aside, I actually feel that his argentum rtw and argentum hand welted are nearly comparable.
The uppers on his argentum rtw, though not as perfect as his Aurum stuff, do feel more supple compared to his test shoes. There was more visible veins on the test shoes. But I understand this is due to him needing to use what is available to him.
The consistency and neatness in the closing, the work on the waist and outsole in general, outsole stitching are also noticeably more refined.
I do wish he expanded the range of his rtw stuff. It really is tremendous value. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that isn't his intention.
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