I was trying to remove $$$ and financial success from the equation and look at the actuel output, which is entirely devoid of value as far as design is concerned just like McD is a $$$ killer-megahouse entirely devoid of value as far as the culinary arts are concerned. Once again I would include RL in the top50 (well suggest it to the OP, I wouldn't in mine just like I would never buy or wear something RL), just saying it speaks a lot to what we value that something so bad can be considered great just because it made a lot of $ to a working class Jew that wanted to become an upper-class WASP. Now I understand that since RL covers the bro to post-bro segment it is well liked by MC people but this just speaks to the mediocrity of most of the posters here.
I don't see why we have to denigrate the brand because it wasn't started by an upper-class Christian. Apart from the fact that it makes a lot of money, as has been mentioned many times in this thread so far, the fact that RL is able to succeed at making items at many different price points is a significant accomplishment, and a task at which many other designers have failed. To be clear, I have no particular stake in RL as a brand. I own none of their clothes. But neither do I think that what they make is generally terrible.
But it sounds like we are in agreement that it should be included on a list of top 50 menswear brands, so...there may be no point in discussing further.